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PostPosted: Jan 22nd, '08, 18:45 
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I just had an article posted up on Ecoworld.net that you may or may not enjoy reading. Since it is about how we deal with resources, I thought it might be of interest.

The Resource Revolution

Hopefully you enjoy it and feel free to discuss it, pro / con if you wish.


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meh in a nutshell they are talking about plantations, which has been the standard mode of operations in many countries for years now.
his analogy doesn't translate well to all resources though, such as iron and coal of which we have such large reserves that we can't even plan for when we run out since it's 100's of years into the future, by which time who knows what the world will be like and what our economies will demand


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Unfortunately plantations are not the standard in many countries - I think only 5% of the wood we are currently using comes from plantations.

And regarding iron, it would make sense to look at what it takes to reclaim it before you make it.

Fish stocks are rapidly depeting, good soil is eroding, water is definitely taking a hit. The point I was making is simple - you can't just go somewhere else and hope to get more resources.


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Oops, sorry, I meant tropical hardwoods - I don't know of the others. (regarding 5%)


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The point I was making is simple - you can't just go somewhere else and hope to get more resources.


Depends on your military resources doesn't it CRT :wink:


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I find that the project is brilliant!
I will definitely have to check it out on place some time.
A question, don't the sheep graze all the new tree shoots?
Two in fact, do you mix the tree variety when replant?
You are an example of the future generation's companies, if there will be a new generation...with climatic changes and all the pollutions and the lack of food coming up SOON and SOONER that we all think.
Good luck and hoping to see you soon... :wink:
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We don't put the sheep in until the trees are twice their size - which is about a year. (yeah, things grow fast here) Horses go about the same time since horses don't like touching anything and are fincky eaters. Small cattle after two to three years.

We definitely mix the trees for the permanent forest and we use the plantation trees as a nursery for the trees of the rainforest since most of them will not grow well without shade (and they grow very slow)

All inquires are of course welcome of course. By the way, according to the news, in 2 more years, Costa Rica is projected to only be able to supply 20% of its wood needs. :eek: 2006 we could supply all, this year, 50%.

Prices of wood here between 2006 and 2007 rose 28% . Of course my wife right now thinks I am brillant. :D


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RupertofOZ wrote:
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The point I was making is simple - you can't just go somewhere else and hope to get more resources.


Depends on your military resources doesn't it CRT :wink:


Yeah - there is always that of course...


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I think that worldwide companies have more power than the military forces, because they control them.
Gouvernments are mostly controlled by companies rather than by the people, they represent. It just depends on the image they want to show to the people (media) and to the politics (sounding after media).

Watch the resources they have found under the arctic, most of the funds are private and given to a russian gouvernemental research center so they can declare the land as russian, who seem to be the most interesting (cashwise) to protect and control the land.

I think the problem is not the resources but the energy we will have to produce to get to them.
It is simple there will no more easy mining uranium in 40 years, we have 50 years ahead of silicium for the solar panel industry, copper for the wind turbines is getting hard to find you can the price increase, oil is getting to the end of the pumping capacities, and we will never have enough land to eat and produce agro carbs.

Add to this all the reconstruction that we will need to do after the consequences of climatic events and we don't go very far with our accessible resources.
That's without counting on the amounts of money our rich countries will have to give to climatic war victims, as Darfur is said to be the first: agricultural land taken by nomad people who live in the surrounding arid regions and with the help of armement "sponsors".
It is sure to less simple, but for the pesants who fight it is surely a reason that they will gain better land ot feed their families.

All the story of renewable energy is good but it is a business hold by the biggest companies (thats why a barrel of petrol is sold at 100$ when it cost only at the max 40$ to pump, transport, refine and distribute), it is the "less worse" solution as we can't go onto low energy yet!

I will be very happy if somebody can tell and prove me the contrary because it would mean that my life will then be easier and more peacefull than my parents.

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Amacafish, one of the reasons I use a bike for transportation a lot of the time is because I really think that if we can, we should save resources for future generation. I am growing wood for you...

But it might cost you to buy it... ;)


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As long as I know who grows it (and if he does aquaponics as well) then I'll be happy to pay for it!!! :D
I'm thinking of something, do you ship abroad? Because la Rochelle is the biggest european port for wood, maybe i could see some of your wood here. That would be fun!!!
Good luck and keep going, us, youngsters, will find a way to keep your retirement system going. :wink:


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When we re-did our floors, we got some very beautiful plantation-raised hybrid eucalyptus. "Lyptus" is manufactured by Aracruz Wood Products in Bahia, Brazil and distributed in North America by Weyerhaeuser. I was happy to get a green solution for the floors that was so pretty. Price was competitive with oak.

I suppose this would be your competition, CRTD, but of course, I didn't know about your operation then.


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In truth, our local market is so strong and so good that I don't bother exporting. There is no need to deal with the headaches.


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