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Author:  Edgewateraqua [ May 26th, '12, 22:09 ]
Post subject:  Ph probes... what are you using and is it reliable?

My top up water is Ph 8 and have been preconditioning it down to high 6.a with phosphoric acid before adding to the fish tank. This keeps my Ph fairly steady but its a pain in the ass adding very small amounts of acid then taking a water sample to get the Ph right.
I'm going to look into getting an electronic probe but would not know where to start.
What are other APers out there using?
I'd like to get an idea how much I would need to spend on a probe for it to be reliable without breaking the bank.

All comments and or links would be greatly appreciated. :study:

Author:  Mr Damage [ May 26th, '12, 22:38 ]
Post subject:  Re: Ph probes... what are you using and is it reliable?

Rather than Phosphoric, try Hydrochloric acid... you can buy 5 litres from City Farmers for the same price as 250ml of Phosphoric, it's also better for the fish... and that's coming from someone that sells Phosphoric!

As far as pH meters are concerned, you get what you pay for... buy a $25 model off ebay via Hong Kong and by the time it gets here you should probably consider ordering another... so by the time the first one craps itself, the second one should be here.

The top of the range for home use is probably the Eutech/Oakton waterproof meters... about $120 - $130... from your local hydro store, or maybe Joel sells 'em as well... dunno?

I have recently started stocking a budget range ('EP' brand) of pH meters for $69.90, you may wanna try them if you can find one, the distributor assures me they have a very low return rate. It's been all good with them so far, but I haven't been selling them for long enough to give a 100% definitive answer as to their reliability.

As far as "conditioning" your top-up water, a pH of 6.0. or at least in the low 6's would be better, this would ensure all the carbonates are consumed before the water is added to your main system.

I fill an opaque (so the sunlight can work on the Chlorine) 10L watering can with tap water, then add 0.75ml of Hydrochloric to the 10L, this brings the pH of Perth tap water (I'm NOR as well) down to about 5.8 or 6.0 initially, and it's in the low 6's by the time I add it to my system 24hrs later.

Cheers.

Author:  Edgewateraqua [ May 27th, '12, 07:32 ]
Post subject:  Re: Ph probes... what are you using and is it reliable?

Thanks Mr damage,

I was wondering about those cheap Ebay Ph meters so thanks for confirming my suspensions.
As for using the phosphoric acid I'm only using a few drops in a 60L bin and letting it sit for a few days before adding it. I had thought it should help the plants but I might look in to only using phosphoric every few Weeks and just use hydrochloric most of the time so that the phosphates don't build up and affect the fish.

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