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Author:  Gary Donaldson [ Feb 8th, '07, 17:30 ]
Post subject:  Satellite Pots

Hi,

I've had a couple of people ask me about satellite pots, so......

Satellite aquaponics uses large (300mm and 440mm) horticulture plastic pots that are filled with a suitable medium into which seedlings are planted. Large holes bored in the base of these pots ensure good drainage. You can buy "pot sox" that are used to contain the media in the pot but I find that a bit of shade cloth in the bottom of the pot stops the media from dropping out.....and it's far less expensive.

The planter pots are inserted into drain pots that are fitted with an outlet tee and which are connected to each other by plastic tube. Excess nutrient drains into the outer pot and away.

Vermiculite, perlite, coco-peat, expanded clay balls and even rock wool can all be used with this system.

We prefer coco-peat and we don't recirculate the nutrient.

Managing the satellite system is very simple.

We water the pots, by hand, every couple of days in hot weather.....less in cooler weather. We stop watering the pot when the fish water begins to drip out of the drain pipe.

Since each pot usually only holds a single plant, automating the watering is as simple as hooking up an individual feed line to each pot.....and using a small pump on a seconds timer. Watering thes pots would take about 15 - 20 seconds each day.....or two.

Satellite aquaponics offers a number of benefits including:

- Each plant has its own growing environment and has no need to compete with other plants to get its share of nutrient or water.

- Individual plants can be inserted or removed at will.

- Plants can be accommodated in irregularly shaped or narrow spaces.
- Nutrient consumption is very modest with no waste.

- Portability – you can take the garden wherever you want – one pot at a time. It’s great for people who rent their homes.

- Disease control – when a plant is diseased or infested, it can be removed from the growing space.

- Ease of management – the pots can be located at a good working height and are easily moved about for planting or harvesting.

- Versatility – this system compliments our tray system by accommodating deep-rooted plants.

Because our satellite pots are non-recirculating, they offer the added benefit that they can be fed with worm tea, hydro chemicals or liquid organic fertiliser in the event that we have insufficient nitrates in the fish water......without impacting the fish.

Also, we can use an organic pesticide (pyrethrum, garlic spray, Neem oil) ......or any other kind of pesticide for that matter.

As it happens, we don't use any kind of pesticide.

I hope this is useful.

Gary

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Author:  njh [ Feb 8th, '07, 18:21 ]
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Isn't this just a clumsier version of the 'open loop' non-recirculating approach we discussed in Jan?

Author:  Gary Donaldson [ Feb 8th, '07, 18:26 ]
Post subject:  Re: Satellite Pots

Hi njh,

I'm not sure that, with the benefits that I've cited, 'clumsy' is an appropriate description for satellite pots.

Author:  RupertofOZ [ Feb 8th, '07, 18:34 ]
Post subject:  Re: Satellite Pots

There are "commercial" type recirculating systems around and Gary could easily do so if he wished....

Satellite Pot systems have been common in Hydro circles for many years and are an adaption of "dutch pot" type systems (two pics)...

Recently there was an eBay adaption of the satellite pot concept with autopot/smartvalve idea ala Alderics friend....

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Author:  njh [ Feb 8th, '07, 18:50 ]
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Perhaps clumsy is unfair - it might perform better than smart pots. I described it as clumsy as it required pumps and timers and whatnot. Smartpots are gravity fed. Read the discussion on open vs closed loop. I think hybrid systems are the bee's knees (and that is what I use). By hybrid I mean that I have a small recirculating system providing NH3 -> NO3, oxygen and CO2 exchange, solids filtering and similar purification, and a large sequential system with nutrient top up and smart valves. It seems to work fine, The only problem I've had so far is when a friend moved the smart valve so that its fill line was above the growing tray... Even so, the low flow rate resulted in only 100L lost.

I like this approach because the system is quasi-stable. If I lose power, or my computer controller crashes then things limp along for a long time, even with extreme weather. The computer can fine tune things for greater performance, but the system is fail-safe.

I also have very low power consumption, my total system's daily power consumption is about 500Wh and I am going to trust it to keep working whilst I'm away next week. If only cats were as easy to look after :)

(njh goes off pondering automatic cat feeders)

Author:  monya [ Feb 8th, '07, 19:10 ]
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Time for some pics of your system NJH

Author:  RupertofOZ [ Feb 8th, '07, 20:40 ]
Post subject:  Re: Satellite Pots

Couldn't find the local link... here's a link to the new "autopot" set up called a "SmartPot".

Single (but could be multiple) satellite type pot within pot like Gary uses but controlled by the "smartvalve"... doesn't re-circulate but water efficient

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Author:  Gary Donaldson [ Feb 9th, '07, 01:21 ]
Post subject:  Re: Satellite Pots

Hi,

Quote:
I described it as clumsy as it required pumps and timers and whatnot.


Currently, my satellite pots are watered by hand so they don't require pumps or timers. I made the point that, if you wanted to automate them, you could use a small pump and timer.

As it turns out, it takes me about a minute (every couple of days) to water the entire setup using a bucket of fish tank water and a large cup. I find this keeps me in touch (literally) with my plants.....almost therapeutic.

Trust me, fish poop will block smart valves.....I have ten Autopots and I am very selective about what I do with them for this very reason.

Gary

Author:  njh [ Feb 9th, '07, 06:02 ]
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monya: yeah yeah yeah, I know. Just been busy, and my wife always has the camera :)

If the requirement is that the pots are simply watered with fish water, then my whole garden is a satellite system :)

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