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Author:  DecalsbyJT [ Feb 12th, '11, 02:37 ]
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http://www.motherearthnews.com/natural-home-living/usda-caves-in-to-monsanto-on-roundup-ready-alfalfa.aspx?newsletter=1&utm_content=February+11,+2011&utm_campaign=FG&utm_source=iPost&utm_medium=email
Author:  Web4Deb [ Feb 12th, '11, 04:43 ]
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-1 for Monsanto. :evil:
Author:  DéjàVoodoo [ Feb 12th, '11, 07:08 ]
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They won't ever lose. Even once the world wide famines start, I fear people will just turn to them for the answers and further modifications to the seeds. No accountability.

:upset:
Author:  earthbound [ Feb 12th, '11, 12:18 ]
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I'm sorry guys, but I'm afraid that your government departments over there have totally sold out to large corporations... This sort of thing is just shocking..
Author:  big worm [ Feb 12th, '11, 12:54 ]
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why i left the rat race
Author:  Chappo [ Feb 17th, '11, 22:34 ]
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Reads as over-hyped greeny-nazist views to me. But I guess that's the problem ,, getting real facts these days is near impossible. Monsanto will tell us how great it is , Motherearth tells us how bad,,, reality is somewhere in the middle
Author:  RupertofOZ [ Feb 17th, '11, 23:01 ]
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Chappo wrote:
Reads as over-hyped greeny-nazist views to me.

Hahaha... now there's the Chappo we all know and love...

But aren't the greenies basically obscure, unimportant pinko commies???

So that would be over-hyped, obscure, unimportant pinko commie-nazist views then.... seems a bit confusing to me... :mrgreen:
Author:  Chappo [ Feb 17th, '11, 23:11 ]
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Yep ,, that'd be me ,, always suspicious of them there Greenies.
Last election I had to number individually 143 ? squares just to make sure that moron greeny Bob Browne stains , was last :)
See there,..... he reckons he's a greenie but he makes me waste all that ink :evil:

That article about Mosanto completely misses the REAL issue , and the real issue is how the heck and we going to feed this ever growing population in ever smaller growing area.

Anyway ,, I'm sure that question won't be answered overnight
Author:  DéjàVoodoo [ Feb 18th, '11, 04:32 ]
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Chappo wrote:
Anyway ,, I'm sure that question won't be answered overnight


Nope - it will probably be answered during the day. :dontknow:

Seriously though, there are still plenty of areas for growing food. It is the shrinking diversity that scares me the most.
Author:  Unicorn [ Feb 18th, '11, 05:08 ]
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Monsanto have far too much control. Rather than them having to contain their modified crops, they sue people who have had their paddocks infested by monsanto genetics through no fault of their own. It is not just the US govt either. There is one poor bugger in W.A. at the moment being pursued by Monsanto for exactly this situation and no help from W.A. govt whatsoever.
Author:  steve [ Feb 18th, '11, 07:51 ]
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Is this something that we are going to let quietly take hold and set precendent here?
Author:  earthbound [ Feb 18th, '11, 08:16 ]
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What, Chappo or monsanto? :funny1:

Hi Chappo.... :wave1:
Author:  Ian [ Feb 18th, '11, 08:27 ]
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Have just finished reading "The World according to Monsanto: Pollution, Politics and Power"
by Marie-Monique Robin (2009: Published 2010) ISBN 978.1.87675.683.3(pbk) and what an eye opener it is.
Well researched facts and figures without a lot of pontificating, to expose the most contriving and manipulative company activity I have ever witnessed. I did some further research on some of the observations in this book, and found them to be absolutely correct and all verifiable. That being said, she does take the opportunity every now and then for a bit of "Jounalise", but I found that entirely excusable as opinion presented by an incensed researcher!

Something that really caught my eye, was that when reading about rBGH (Bovine Growth Hormone, marketed as POSILAC.) which was put on the market about 1985 (US FDA approved use in 1993!!) supposedly to increase milk yield by 8 to 12 gallons per day. Monsanto gave out Vet bonuses for use of rBGH (BST etc) and when it was submitted to the FDA, the American Government was paying Dairy Farmers to slaughter their cows because they had been over producing milk for a quarter of a Century? In 1985/86, $18B US was spent on slaughtering 1.5 Million cows!!
Then, they started suing milk producers who labelled their milk as containing "no BGH" by legislation to overcome the problem they had with the backlash from the bad effects of Posilac. Amongst the "organic" producers that they couldn't touch, were the Amish, who sold their fresh milk from the farm gate, thus avoiding attacks from Monsanto.
It was this that sparked my attention. After reading about the US Senate Bill (SB 425), which was introduced and passed after this book was written, it effectively has stoped the protection selling from the farm gate afforded to those "organic" producers, allowing Monsanto to now pursue litigation!! "Crack for Cows" is not used in Australia, thank goodness, but it shows the lengths to which Monsanto (now PHARMACIA) will go to, regardless of the time it takes, to manipulate the system for profit alone! Remember, this is the CHEMICAL Company (not Agricultural Company!!) that gave us PCBs, Agent Orange, Round Up, Patented Genes and GE Canola!
Give the Book a read and expose yourself to a whole new world of avarice and greed at any cost.

Cheers IanK :(
Author:  earthbound [ Feb 18th, '11, 09:17 ]
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Thanks Ian.... Though I don't know that I want to read that book, they upset me enough as it is.

What also amazes me is the way that people have gone backwards and forwards between the FDA and Monsanto.

Was there anything about this woman? I've read it a few times in different places.

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For example, Margaret Miller was a former supervisor for Monsanto and was actively involved in the GBH program. In fact, she was the very person who created the report that was sent to the FDA seeking approval to use GBH in the milk industry. Soon after she finished the report, she left her job at Monsanto and went to work for the FDA as the new Deputy Director of Human Food Safety. Ironically, her first assignment with the FDA was to approve her own report
Author:  RupertofOZ [ Feb 18th, '11, 09:24 ]
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earthbound wrote:
What, Chappo or monsanto? :funny1:

Now that's not a fair comparison EB...

Monsanto is an example of precise genetic engineering....

Chappo is more an example of random mutation.... :mrgreen:
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