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| Author: | Nocky [ Jul 26th, '10, 16:40 ] |
| Post subject: | 12 months until the internet runs out of Addresses |
True according to this story, 340 days http://www.watoday.com.au/technology/te ... 10r83.html I have a static IP wonder what it's worth |
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| Author: | earthbound [ Jul 26th, '10, 16:57 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 12 months until the internet runs out of Addresses |
Oooooooohhhhhhh Maaaaaaaaannn.... Thats gunna suck....... |
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| Author: | Boris01 [ Jul 26th, '10, 18:03 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 12 months until the internet runs out of Addresses |
delete facebook |
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| Author: | arbe [ Jul 26th, '10, 18:07 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 12 months until the internet runs out of Addresses |
Nocky wrote: I have a static IP wonder what it's worth I dont have a static IP Address, but my ADSL connection is on 24 hrs a day, 7 days a week so I am consuming 1 IP address - the only difference between yours and mine is your address is static. There is a lot of waste out there - for example organisations who use Internet routable IP addresses for their internal hosts when NAT would be sufficient (I used to work for a company who has been allocated a class B address - 65,536 addresses - and used them on their workstations). |
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| Author: | desertrat [ Jul 26th, '10, 18:08 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 12 months until the internet runs out of Addresses |
Boris01 wrote: delete facebook What's Facebook? |
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| Author: | DragonC [ Jul 26th, '10, 18:18 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 12 months until the internet runs out of Addresses |
*facepalm* They've been predicting this for a long time. At least 5 years as far as I recall. Scaremongering at it's finest. Move along. Nothing to see here. |
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| Author: | TEA20 [ Jul 27th, '10, 07:21 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 12 months until the internet runs out of Addresses |
Boris01 wrote: delete facebook
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| Author: | RupertofOZ [ Jul 27th, '10, 07:23 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 12 months until the internet runs out of Addresses |
Oh no... then they'd all "tweet".... And our mobile phone networks would collapse... good chance they will anyway... they're so overloaded with mindless crap... |
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| Author: | DéjàVoodoo [ Jul 27th, '10, 08:35 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 12 months until the internet runs out of Addresses |
Most routers and OS's already support IPv6 and dual stacks of IPv4 and IPv6. That meens there are plenty of addresses to go around...we just need to use them. I would not worry to much about it. |
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| Author: | gemmell [ Jul 27th, '10, 09:33 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 12 months until the internet runs out of Addresses |
IPv6 FTW Plus you could take away large swaths of privately owned IP address ranges which were assigned around the birth of the internet and make them use NAT like the rest of the world. I'm not expecting the shit to hit the fan anytime soon. |
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| Author: | phred [ Jul 27th, '10, 09:49 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 12 months until the internet runs out of Addresses |
Just to re-iterate and agree with what's been said about IP Addresses. We now have IP6 providing more addresses... about 2 to the power of 128 addresses are now available. (that's a reallllllllllllyyy big number ! ) The very large IPv6 address space supports 6.8 billion (6.8×10 to the power of 9) people alive in 2010. From another perspective, this is the same number of IP addresses per person as the number of atoms in a metric ton of carbon. Somehow we are not going to run out for a good number of years... I'll be dead and won't care.. Oh and as far as IP4 goes, the multiple global address registries, are clawing back IP Addresses from organisations who don't use them. We have a very simple technology called NAT. (Network address translation). to bore you all. two major ranges of addresses have been set aside for internal use 192.x.x.x and 10.x.x.x (x is the variable). these are internal addresses for organisations/homes to use... they are not accessible on the public facing side of the internet. Trying to translate this better. at your house you may note that your home router uses a range of addresses something like 192.168.1.1 all the way up to 192.168.1.255 or 10.1.1.1 to 10.1.1.255. with a mask of 255.255.255.0 This gives you 255 addresses at home, if you change the mask for example to 255.255.0.0 then you open up a huge number of addresses to use internally. geez I know iv'e gone on, I apologise... dont worry smart people have looked at this and the answer is simple... IP6 fixes it, most hardware is replaced every 5 years meaning if you've bought an internet router or PC in the last 5 years your'll never have a problem. It's like Y2K it was just a lot of hype to make sure people like me got offered lots of money but big corporate fat cats to fix a problem that we created (hehe). and yep the world didn't explode on 1/1/2000. - Why cause we fixed it and saved the day. Hmmm... I better start preparing for the next big thing, did you know we're going to run out of gold soon there isn't enough left in the world ............. |
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| Author: | gemmell [ Jul 27th, '10, 10:03 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 12 months until the internet runs out of Addresses |
phred wrote: Just to re-iterate and agree with what's been said about IP Addresses. We now have IP6 providing more addresses... about 2 to the power of 128 addresses are now available. (that's a reallllllllllllyyy big number ! ) The very large IPv6 address space supports 6.8 billion (6.8×10 to the power of 9) people alive in 2010. From another perspective, this is the same number of IP addresses per person as the number of atoms in a metric ton of carbon. Somehow we are not going to run out for a good number of years... I'll be dead and won't care.. Oh and as far as IP4 goes, the multiple global address registries, are clawing back IP Addresses from organisations who don't use them. We have a very simple technology called NAT. (Network address translation). to bore you all. two major ranges of addresses have been set aside for internal use 192.x.x.x and 10.x.x.x (x is the variable). these are internal addresses for organisations/homes to use... they are not accessible on the public facing side of the internet. Trying to translate this better. at your house you may note that your home router uses a range of addresses something like 192.168.1.1 all the way up to 192.168.1.255 or 10.1.1.1 to 10.1.1.255. with a mask of 255.255.255.0 This gives you 255 addresses at home, if you change the mask for example to 255.255.0.0 then you open up a huge number of addresses to use internally. geez I know iv'e gone on, I apologise... dont worry smart people have looked at this and the answer is simple... IP6 fixes it, most hardware is replaced every 5 years meaning if you've bought an internet router or PC in the last 5 years your'll never have a problem. It's like Y2K it was just a lot of hype to make sure people like me got offered lots of money but big corporate fat cats to fix a problem that we created (hehe). and yep the world didn't explode on 1/1/2000. - Why cause we fixed it and saved the day. Hmmm... I better start preparing for the next big thing, did you know we're going to run out of gold soon there isn't enough left in the world ............. Lol - that's almost exactly what I was trying to say in my not so many words. (PS. FTW = For The Win) |
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| Author: | Nocky [ Jul 28th, '10, 08:00 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 12 months until the internet runs out of Addresses |
Don't shoot me I just posted the story But I think it is a bit like Y2K and won't mount to much, but I am due for a couple of new PC's so might wait til years end and see if anything new happens, but if you read the whole story this has been known about for 10 years and 10 years ago they thought they had enough to basically last 30 years from now, so really scary how fast it has filled, reminds me of a story a few years back from a professor in USA predicted the internet would collapse because of the amount web pages and emails flying around compared to what the infrastructure could handle, makes you wonder
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| Author: | vahtryn [ Aug 3rd, '10, 03:15 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 12 months until the internet runs out of Addresses |
I'll make an intro post after this, but this one caught my attention as I'm a network engineer and have been for roughly 16 years. The internet really won't run out of addresses, eventually people will start releasing them back to ARIN, RIPE, or APAC soon enough as they realize there are issues. This is also another reason why ipv6 is an important upgrade for most systems, it even tunnels over ipv4. I won't go into the nerdery involved with netblocks and all that jazz, but it's something that will hopefully not bother too many people. Also with the cloud of it all (I hate that word, my last title was senior cloud engineer) is helping by getting rid of extraneous use of public (non rfc-1918) addresses. |
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| Author: | earthbound [ Sep 26th, '10, 13:08 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 12 months until the internet runs out of Addresses |
Quote: senior cloud engineer I think that's a brilliant job title Vahtryn.... |
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