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Author:  TimC [ Sep 13th, '06, 20:51 ]
Post subject:  Local Council Regulations
Hi Everyone,

Just want to get some peoples opinions on how to deal with local councils and complying with all the crappy rules and regulations. If you work for the council please don't read this post..... :)

Basically my dilema is we currently have homebuilt pergolas down the extent of both sides of the house and a shed with another one on the way. This means that (according to KM Shire) will come very close to the maximum allowed covered area on the block. I have an ideal spot for a 7 X 3 m greenhouse, however if I built it without council approval (which I won't get) and they happen to find it, I would have to pull it down....

I could cover it in shade cloth but it defeats the whole purpose. Anyone else faced with this problem?
Author:  monya [ Sep 13th, '06, 20:59 ]
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tim, my theory is, for structural big stuff like extensuion etc, follow the rule, but there's no way I am applying for council approval to build my greenhouse. Don't want them sticking their noses in.

The other thing is, I could disassemble my greenhouse in about 2 hours if I ever needed to.
Author:  steve [ Sep 13th, '06, 21:24 ]
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Tim, i'm going to hi-jack your topic for a post or two. Sorry.

Speaking of rules and regs, i read in the paper today an article written by the head of the Plumbing industry commission. Gist of it was that he would like to remind folk that you need a registered plumber to fit a rain water tank for your garden and its not as simple as a couple of pvc pipes, yada yada yada..........Sorry if there are any plumbers here, but IMO the PIC wants their finger in everyones pie, including refrigeration.........but thats another story.

Everyone is getting aplumber to pipe up their AP setup, yes? ROFLMAOTIC

There, its all out. You can have your topic back Tim, thanks :)

In relation to the poll.............don't ask and you won't get a "NO" :) LOL
Author:  eame0002 [ Sep 13th, '06, 21:31 ]
Post subject:  Council regs in Adelaide and greenhouses
Wow my first post!

I'm a bit worried about this issue as well, I've just bought a property in Hawthordene (Adelaide) which a nice big garage (9Mx9M) on it and was planning on building a greenhous (4Mx6M tunnel shape covered with plastic) to put my grow beds in and put my tanks/pumps in the garage. :D

Anyone know what the regs are in Adelaide or had experience with councils here?

I'd hate to buy the AP bible, a big tank, set everything up and then have the council tell me to tear it down :shock:
Author:  steve [ Sep 13th, '06, 22:39 ]
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Don't ask for approval for any stage of it ;) then they can't "look over there now, what this..."

Like monya said, if its a structure pertaning to the house, ok, otherwise wing it :)
Author:  creative1 [ Sep 13th, '06, 22:47 ]
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where i live some people do what they want, when the shire comes a knocking, as they do, the people say oooohhhh didn't know.
Now down here there are some with a lotta money and the shire wont fight them cause they know they'll loose.

My neighbour has cleared most of his block 8 acres, most he is allow to clear is 3. We have cleared 1 and it is bucket loads.
My other neighbour couldn't get the 20t excavator down the drive, so they got out the chain saw and chopped down trees on our block to get access.
Without even a call. Then I got a letter from his solicitor telling me to stop tresspassing. work that one out.
Author:  GotFish? [ Sep 13th, '06, 22:57 ]
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Sheez, What would happen if you set your beer on his side of the table?
I obtained a building permit for my green house, wanted to make sure I didn't have to remove it later, its out in plain view.
I have also experienced how some officials feel they can make rules up as they go. Mostly I do what I want but try to keep my backside from too much exposure.
Author:  earthbound [ Sep 13th, '06, 23:04 ]
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G'day eame0002, or from now on you will probably be know as E2, good to see you here...

Councils are generally fairly reasonable, if you are planning on building a substantial structure you should tell them about it. And generally if you are building a reasonably solid structure they will have no problem, I suggest that you shouldn't build anything that doesn't conform to building standards.

If your only planning on putting a couple of poles up with some shadecloth spread over it then perhaps there is no need to even let them know...

So far as aquaponics as it stands, there are no guidlines (at leasdt not in my local council) that suggests you can't.

I must say E2, that is one freaky avatar.......
:shock:
Author:  creative1 [ Sep 13th, '06, 23:04 ]
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John- you know those programs u see on tele with the bad neighbour?
Well I could have filled several pages.
Bloody imports don't know why they come here.
I know why we hate them when where playing rugby.
I am not racist but if I went to another country I feel I should comply.
Not those idiots
Author:  michael_Ferrini [ Sep 13th, '06, 23:10 ]
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My governing inspector does not count "unattached" pergolas as coverage and I detached it to build my outbuilding as a "garage/shop". After the final inspection i tore the roof off of one side to make a greenhouse and if I resale, the building is permitted.
Author:  earthbound [ Sep 13th, '06, 23:14 ]
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I think I'v3e lost you there C1.....? :shock:
Author:  creative1 [ Sep 13th, '06, 23:17 ]
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Hi EB-lost where
Author:  TimC [ Sep 14th, '06, 10:07 ]
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I was reading the other post too, regarding pool fencing. I thought I'd add my two cents on that too.

We have a spa, with a cover, the house is fenced all around, with metal gates out the front. We also have a pool fence and side gates/rollerdoor. The last time the pool inspector was out he, picked us up for three things: the auto closer on the pool gate was too slow (he timed it), there was a arch lattice with a climbing rose too close to the pool fence (kids can climb over it) and finally the gaps in the wooden side gate was too wide (max 1 cm). So IF a child happened to scale the front fence, make their way around the back, scale the rose bush, get the cover off the spa, then jump in. They could drown. Or they can walk 50 m down the street and drown in the creek. With no fences!

You can't be too carefull, things can happen no matter what safety you have. But what really s**ts me is the artificial lakes that are in the new estates. It would be so easy for a ball to roll in and the kid goes in after it. The majority of child drownings happen when parents don't what their children, that is a fact! We have to suffer for it....
Author:  creative1 [ Sep 14th, '06, 11:24 ]
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mmm...
The neighbour just built his house without even a building permit application.
When the shire found out they said it ok it meets the guidelines.
Bet they don't know he's just put up a huge shed,
I have a BIG shed his is HUGE.
and they don't live there...one can only wonder what he is doing with it!
Could be an AP's but then we don't get peckers like him on here.
... back with the smiles..
C1
Author:  TimC [ Sep 14th, '06, 11:38 ]
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We have a house behind us that has two huge trees within a metre of the fence. One of them is a cotton palm. During high winds the bloody thing looks like it is going to fall down. If it fell our way I would crush the shed and hit the house. Both of them shade the solar hot water system for 2/3 of the day in winter. We need to somehow get them taken out but I don't even think anyone lives there, plus it would cost a fortune. Mostly because they would shade some of my future AP setup. Any ideas...?
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