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I heard about this the other day though it was only today that I started to research into it a little bit..

So the Northern Territory government introduced a 10c deposit recycling scheme on all drink containers 12 months ago. All cool, South Australia has had one of these working well for almost 30 years, and in the 12 months since the NT introduced it, recycling of drink containers increased massively in the NT. South Australia has a recycling rate of 75-85%, while other states are less than half this at around 30%.

A 10c refund scheme is supported by over 80% of the wider community in recent polls, and in South Australia the scheme has around 98% public approval. Yet Coca cola, for the good of its consumers of course, took the NT government to court and had the scheme stopped on a technicality.

According to the CSIRO, plastic bottles make up 30-50% of all marine plastics pollution that's killing wildlife. Here's a simple scheme, shown to work in SA for so many years and yet coke fights it and stops it for our own good as consumers..

So I'm doing what I can do to stop consuming their products and help others to make conscious decisions about whether they want to support such a company..




https://www.greenpeace.org.au/action/?cid=35

Interesting "Out of Order" Facebook campaign here http://www.facebook.com/itsoutoforder with people putting "out of order" signs on coke vending machines. Not that I would ever condone such actions... I'd certainly never print any out myself and put them anywhere.

Yeah stick it to 'em I say

I'm down with that - not drank Coke itself for years, though its all the other products that take a bit more vigilance to avoid buying.

Count us in EB.

For the lawyers who hang here (there has to be some), Why cant a class action be setup against coke and thier partners?
They should not be able to use thier money to overturn something a government does that has majority support by community.

Can they be sued on "environmental destruction" grounds? or can the fisheries department sue them under the same guise because of fish and bird deaths? After all thier actions are impacting on and hurting another industry.

I dont get it.
There is very little I can find in the news about it...
But why are they suing exactly.
Any articl I find says it will be a tax on the company, but nothing explains the link.

All i have heard is that they dont like the fact that it will push the price of thier item up by 10c when sitting on the shelf, if they got a cut they wouldnt have problem.

It cost millions of public money... just to try and prove that...

Just better to cost Coke millions... by boycotting them.... or supporting the "out of order" campaign... whichever takes your fancy...

It would set a precident though, which is badly needed, that corporations cannot control the way a country runs to suit thier own ends.

I'm feeling very guilty right now as I just finished a coke before checking out new posts on the forum only to find this one.

I'm also torn as I don't know what else I can mix with my cheap scotch - I guess for the benefit of the environment I better find a better quality scotch which doesn't need to be mixed with something.

Basically.. they're suing through a inter-state corporate trade law... that says that what's legal in one state... implies it's legal in another...

So, because there's no deposit scheme in other states... SA is exempted as it had it's scheme in place before the legislation... they claimed the NT law imposed a different trade "barrier"... to their product...

And the court also found that Coke was selling... not just the container... but the contents of the container...

Hence, the 10cent cost... was a price imposition on the product as a whole... that didn't apply in other states.... which meant that Coke's product was disadvantaged in the NT... compared to other states...

(think I got the nub of it)

I haven't allowed a product from this multinational into my home for over 30 years. All nine children that I raised grew up drinking alternative drinks and are better for it. Once the commitment is made to make a stand, it can be pretty easy to cut something out of your life completely if you believe your reasons for doing so are sound.
As far as I know, my now adult kids still avoid these products.

What about dry ginger Arbe?

Who gives a sh!t what Coke thinks, or demands!... the governement is able to change tax laws and apply them retrospectively and that stands up in the high court against massive class actions, so surely, if this government was as serious about the environment as they claim, they could legislate a national deposit scheme and get the same tax lawyers they used to dot the i's and cross the t's on this new legislation and make it just as water tight... I reckon the Greens might even side with them on that one... but then again they'd probably want something ridiculous like a $2 deposit.

They probably could change the existing corporations law... or impose a new law...

But that could be opposed by the states.. or a state... on a constitutional basis...

Apparantly there's a proposal for a national law to be presented at the next CHOGM meeting....