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I disagree, I contribute to society and do not attack people. Some people don't deserve to be alive. Of course that is just my opinion. IMO the second he tried to attack another person he deserved to die.

Not a cultural thing (more of a radical personal opinion)

From my viewpoint the criple was the victim,RIP (killed for wanting a smoke and a soda)

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if it was your father, would you still feel the same helomech? honest opinion here...(i imagine you would feel quite differently, and be looking for facts if you knew the person)

I am not the kind to defend a person that is not in the right even if it is my family. They act stupid they get what comes to them. If someone is wrong they are wrong and it is their choices that got them into that situation. Even if my kids mess up and go to jail, I will visit them, but they have to pay for their choices. And that is my honest opinion.

No he was not, he was killed because he was stupid and did not comply and threatened people. You are twisting things, the dead person is not the victim. Had he had that pen to the throat of your wife, you would have shot him yourself. I damn sure would have killed that POS, had he threatened someone in my presence.

And that sort of attitude is why I'm glad I don't live in a country where people have guns.... I'll have a double amputee come at me with a pen any day, rather than anyone with a gun.

Helomech the first thing I want to say about the views is that it is the thinking behind the views that you are expressing that then led to the success of the Nazi party, Communist Russia, Zalanist Russia, Pol Pot, Syria right now, etc. etc. etc.

I would also point out the the constitution that you say you value was written to attempt to ensure that no one with the views that you seem to hold would ever have the power to implement them.

Lastly you show great ignorance about what mental illness is and is not and seem to suggest that it is an appropriate response to some manifestations of a mental illness to execute the patient. Again I point out that this was a feature of Fascist, Communist and extreme capitalist (modern China) governments.

My guns have never hurt anyone, and hopefully never will. But I will be damned if I put the life of a scumbag ahead of my own. It is things like this that are the reason I am glad I don't live in a liberal country.

Again, people are assuming that a double amputee is not dangerous. Yes he is in a wheelchair, but that does not mean that he is not capable if causing harm to others. A pen might not seem like much, but it would make for a really bad day if your cartoid artery was impaled by one. That is the sort of thing unhappy people think about. And this particular wheelchair bound individual did not seem very happy. Btw, a taser is far more humane than pepper spray, they stop stunning when you release the trigger.

Are you kidding me. Have you read your constitution? Have you read your bill of rights?

When America won its independence and confirmed its constitution it was a beacon of light towards freedom and the recognizing of human rights and responsibilities. The USA has made many mistakes but the world is a better place because of the values it has shed its blood to defend and spread through out the world.

That is a blatant lie. My views are nothing like the parties you list. Those parties are actually liberal views. This has nothing to do with mental illness, and you are twisting crap around. This has to do with a idiot trying to stab a police officer. And that idiot getting shot, nothing more. Seems to me you would rather the officer get stabbed than the idiot get shot. This has to do with obeying the law, and I don't believe mental illness is an excuse. My views are as far away from the parties you list as they could be. I am willing to bet you have more in common with them than I do. Please stick to the facts, where did I say a mentally ill person should be exterminated (and that is exactly what you implied)? Not once did I say that, and in fact I never reffered to him as mentally ill. I did refer to him as stupid and a idiot though.

Now please explain to me my views and how they led to the the nazi party, or communist russia or any of those. You have no freaking clue as to what my views are. My views are freedom to everyone, except when you interfer with someone else's freedom. How in the hell is that like any of those parties. Unlike some of you, I don't want to restrict others freedoms. I want everyone to be free to make their own choices.

Sadly.. so do a lot of peoples hearts..... pepper spray certainly burns peoples eyes for a while... but I haven't heard of anyone dying from them.....

And frankly... the suggestion of a conjunction of a "taser"... and "humane"... in the same sentance is a bloody oxymoron....

A bit like ... "military intelligence"...

Are you kidding me. Have you read your constitution? Have you read your bill of rights?

When America won its independence and confirmed its constitution it was a beacon of light towards freedom and the recognizing of human rights and responsibilities. The USA has made many mistakes but the world is a better place because of the values it has shed its blood to defend and spread through out the world.

You don't seem to be aware that the nation you say you love so much is founded on values and principals that you do not seem to share with its founding fathers and those that have followed them.

Yes I bet I know them better than you.

So what is your point? Want to debate me on the constitution or the bill of rights? Or is there something else in this post.

I want our country to go back to following the constitution to the letter. I believe in human rights, please show me where I said I didn't. I have said that if someone is trying to harm someone else they get what is coming to them. That person has the right to defend themselves even if it means killing the other person. This is directly in line with what I have said.

Unless you think they're "scumbags".... in which case you'll shoot them eh? ....

Bet there's a lot of Iraqis.. and other foreigners... that probably think you, and people of your ilk... are scumbags as well...

In the end I guess morality comes down to who has the biggest.. or most guns eh????

Sounds like some countries.. historical foreign policy approachs....

and they wonder why people hate them..