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PostPosted: Jan 30th, '09, 15:23 
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Yep now you are getting it :lol:


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Aaaah! The String theory..... The theory to help the Big Bang theory....The new "What happened before the Big Bang" theory......

In New Scientist, 3 June 2000, No. 2241, in an article entitled “Before The Big Bang,” author Marcus Chown has detailed what he believes to be necessary modifications to the big bang theory. He now suggests an infinite “pre-history” to this model. The String theory......

A story by D. Russell Humphreys, Ph.D. explains it nicely.

“Once upon a time, say a dozen or so billion years ago, space and matter came into existence out of nothing and expanded a million trillion trillion-fold. And that’s how we got what exists today.” So the story-tellers—I mean evolutionist cosmologists—once told us. They like spinning tales to us, who like children in a nursery, are always eager to hear something new. But the old story above, called The Standard Big Bang Theory, prompted some of the more skeptical children to ask embarrassing questions, like: “What happened before the big bang?” and “How could the initial matter be so precisely evenly-spread throughout space at the beginning?” The usual story-teller response was something like, “Ask me something more meaningful, like, ‘What’s north of the North Pole?’”

Now a new story-teller, to his credit, has tried to answer the children’s questions more seriously. He tells us something like this: “Well, you see, the universe really didn’t come into existence a mere few billion years ago. It actually started a long time ago! It was a very dull universe for an infinitely long time. Then—all of a sudden—only a dozen or so billion years ago, it decided to get some sparkle into its dreary life and explode. But it had all that infinity of years beforehand to get ready and distribute matter very smoothly throughout itself before it went boom. You see, now I’ve attached a really, really long fuse to the big bang firecracker.”

“Marvelous!” say the children—“How do you know all this?”

“Ah,” says the story-teller, “I just reached into my bucket of zeroes—we cosmologists use them like a carpenter uses nails—and just tacked together some popular stories, er, theories, like ‘inflationary cosmology’ and ‘string theory.’”

“We get it,” say the children, “Your fuse is a string! But isn’t string theory just a nursery story, too? What actual data does it predict or explain?”

“Uh, well,” says the story-teller, “string theory actually hasn’t connected with any data yet. It’s very complicated. But we’re getting there. Just wait.”

“How long should we wait?” asks one of the children, “As long as it took your fuse to finish burning? Infinity years?” “And besides,” asks another, “what was there before your fuse came into existence?” But the story-teller has left the nursery, seeking more gullible children. "


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PostPosted: Jan 30th, '09, 15:41 
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Reminds me of the man who built a house without windows around himself and then screamed at God for the darkness………..


The man was obviously an idiot... for more than one reason... but he was made (if you believe such stuff).... in the "image" of God....

Still leaves the fundamental question Cyara... what reason would "God" have to even bother to create anything... in his "image".... or anything at all...

He is "everything".... what more could he possibly want... :dontknow:


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PostPosted: Jan 30th, '09, 15:54 
If you argue that man was created in the "image" of God Cyara... and admit that man is "imperfect"... then logic suggests that either God is therefore "imperfect"...

Or that he didn't make man in his "image"....

Question then is... why not?.... why bother in the first place... and why lie about it...??

And yes... it is a perfectly valid question to ask... what came before "god"... and/or who created "god"....

IMO man created "god".... as a means of giving life and existance some meaning, direction, guidance... and limitations...

And through history predicted the arrival of prophets that would give substance to that suggestion.... and duely over the mellenia found them... thus justifying the initial premise...

A self fulfilling prophecy... and "fulfillment was probably what is was all about anyway... :wink:


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Is the concept of Love so hard to understand Rupe?

God's nature is to love....... to share.........to give.....to restore.... to heal the breach.

When man can only understand hate........and taking.....and spoiling..... then it might not be so easy to understand. And so He demonstrated that love. Take it or leave it Rupe. He wants you to take it. :D

Man made in the image of God fell from perfection. He lost contact with God. God loved the world so much that He gave His only Son that whoever would believe on Him should be saved....restored....healed.....delivered.


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+1 Perfectly put rupert.
Religion was a useful tool to control the masses until Law and order could be enforced but these days in my opinion it keeps up barriers between peoples and prevents the world being as one.
The universe is governed by laws of physics. You cant claim that because we don't yet or may not ever have the answers is proof of anything. That is the cause of Mythology and the basis of all religion.


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Is the concept of Love so hard to understand Rupe?

God's nature is to love....... to share.........to give.....to restore.... to heal the breach.

The concept of "love"... as defined as????

I see lot's of demonstration of injustice, bigotry, hatred, misery etc around the world... and throughout history...

Often in the name of "religion"... often at the behest religious or political leaders... or at least in the "name of god"...

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When man can only understand hate........and taking.....and spoiling..... then it might not be so easy to understand. And so He demonstrated that love. Take it or leave it Rupe. He wants you to take it. :D

Nope... when man totally accepts that all mankind is created equal, has the right to equal opportunity and respect....

Then and only then will injustice and hatred wane... and it will be proportional to the level of hippocracy preached by nations, corporations, false leaders and usurers....

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Man made in the image of God fell from perfection. He lost contact with God.

Not logically possible... how can something made perfect in the image of "god" fall from perfection...

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God loved the world so much that He gave His only Son that whoever would believe on Him should be saved....restored....healed.....delivered.

Nah, God is all forgiving... that's all that needs to be believed... otherwise ... it's a con job... :wink:

P.S... Armeggedon may arrive sooner than you may think Cyara....

Watch the Israelis bomb the snot out of Iran in the next few months... possibly even with a tatical nuke....

To prevent the Iranians having... a nuclear weapon... like they have....

And in the name of "god"... and "peace".... BULLOCKS... bloody terrorists IMO...


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Nope... when man totally accepts that all mankind is created equal, has the right to equal opportunity and respect....

Then and only then will injustice and hatred wane... and it will be proportional to the level of hippocracy preached by nations, corporations, false leaders and usurers....

You been showing the way then Rupe? All mankind equal....right to respect....

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Man made in the image of God fell from perfection. He lost contact with God.

Not logically possible... how can something made perfect in the image of "god" fall from perfection...

By deception. Only deceived when don't know you are. Am I deceived Rupe? :D I'll agree that one of us is!

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God loved the world so much that He gave His only Son that whoever would believe on Him should be saved....restored....healed.....delivered.

Nah, God is all forgiving... that's all that needs to be believed... otherwise ... it's a con job... :wink:
Rupe wants to believe God to be all forgiving. Need lots of forgiving? :wink:

God can keep the rest? .... just let us get on with what we want, when we want it, and where......... And don't think we'll let anyone encroach when they do what they want, when they want, no matter where.... It's all about the big ME MYSELF AND I after all.

Let's get proactive here Rupe.... Not just talk. We need you out there bringing in this new total acceptance that "all mankind is created equal, has the right to equal opportunity and respect....' for "Then and only then will injustice and hatred wane... " That just a suggestion for someone else? Or are you the new saviour going to show the way? If not you Rupe... who? This is a task of worldwide magnitude. Need the right man for the job....Second thoughts :roll: I honestly think we need a really big God here..... One big enough to change the hearts of men who mock and ridicule His love. But only after He has told us who created Him :D


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Cyara wrote:
Is the concept of Love so hard to understand Rupe?

God's nature is to love....... to share.........to give.....to restore.... to heal the breach.



so war brought on by religion is love? flood....drought....death by famine...is gods love?.I always hear the bs comment..."its gods way"..............I noticed something in the uk on the news recently...buses with billboards plastered on them sponsored by the athiest bus campaign with slogans along the line of " live life n be happy, god does not exist"....is refreshing to see this even though I refuse to label myself as an atheist because it gives creedance to christianity

Cyara do you refuse to beleive or acknowledge the existance of dinousaurs or evolution?


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The man in the windowless house again..........

Dinosaurs? Of course there were dinosaurs......

Evolution.... as in you were an ape and I never was? :D

Hey! Whatever does it for you BK.........


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The man in the windowless house again..........

Dinosaurs? Of course there were dinosaurs......

Evolution.... as in you were an ape and I never was? :D

Hey! Whatever does it for you BK.........


but we were both from the same gene, do you find it hard to believe that were are descendants of the apes? how can u say you believe in dinosaurs yet poo poo the idea that we are born of the ape? or are you getting personal...in that case that makes you a bad christian...but if your catholic you can do that and say sorry and all is honky dory...... apparantly


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Hey! Whatever does it for you BK.........


well I guess that was intended to work both ways being a believer.............yoiu too can choose to live in your own perfect fantasy world where the mythical "god" guides you through your life...............god was only ever invented for those that needed a crutch/ a leen to...a shoulder to cry on to get ppl through.....a fantasy......if I were to believe that my coffee table was my saviour .my guiding light then I would be like you..........and you couldnt say anything otherwise because its a belief...a blind faith...nothing has been proven and nothing has stood before either of us to say " im am your god".......


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Nah, if Rupe's asked to believe, then Rupe accepts that this is a self evident truth... otherwise, nothing else uttered is believable... :wink:

Do I need lots of forgiveness.... probably... :lol:

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God can keep the rest? .... just let us get on with what we want, when we want it, and where......... And don't think we'll let anyone encroach when they do what they want, when they want, no matter where.... It's all about the big ME MYSELF AND I after all.


If you direct this towards myself Cyara... one word... bullocks...

If you direct it toward a greater audience, such as those that might not "believe" in the "god" that you do.... then again... bullocks....

One can be selfless to some degree without being religious.... the question is ... can one who is religious be selfless....

History suggests that many of the latter fail miserably... :wink: ... indeed, their expousal of religious belief is often used to smear respectability over some of the most blantant and selfish acts of oppression, barbarity, torture, rascism etc etc...

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This is a task of worldwide magnitude. Need the right man for the job....Second thoughts :roll: I honestly think we need a really big God here..... One big enough to change the hearts of men who mock and ridicule His love. But only after He has told us who created Him :D


Nope ... just the hearts of men Cyara... and there are those in history that have tried to show the way.... I respect Nelson Mandela as one such man... I wonder if you do?... :wink:

Do we need a "God" ... not IMO.... can mankind change the nature of their hearts... I believe so... can you truely embrace that yourself Cyara???... and does that extend to your Islamic brother???

And more particularly.... the Middle Eastern Arabs.... for they are the people of the chosen 12 tribes... :wink:


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with me mate satan as my witness.....I truelly am applaulled at the replies of cyara ....a supposed believer in the far fetched, they all seem to be turned against the person in question and making the personal, is this a cop out because of a lack of true faith............an obvious lack of evidence?

I am looking into designs that would enhance the "fish" logo that most miserable christians have on the back of their vehicles.........I have added a fish hook................a sort of "come in spinner" approach


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