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Why bother when you can pick it all up for next to nothing from F&F??
Guess, he'll have to start taking ID huh?

In NSW it's worse, F&F would hate it.
The coppas make them bury all the seized hydro gear while they watch, it in itself is criminal! Tip boys hate it too, they have to dig a special hole and spend hours on just one delivery.

I get to drug test my patients so I know what they've taken. I see alot of people who are psychotic after having "only" pot.


It will not be illegal to buy or sell hydroponic equipment, provided that you provide ID etc, it will only be illegal to use that equipment for illegal activities ie growing pot.


Hopefully they will use the legislation to weed out the dodgy shops (pardon the pun).

"I get to drug test my patients so I know what they've taken. I see alot of people who are psychotic after having "only" pot."

You would have to have a predisposition and a genetic make up for this to occur ie those people who become psychotic are merely triggered, pot is just one of those triggers. You should know this KE.

"It will not be illegal to buy or sell hydroponic equipment, provided that you provide ID etc, it will only be illegal to use that equipment for illegal activities ie growing pot."

So what is exactly hydroponic equipment? and what would make it different from say retic,plumbing etc.

Furthermore I resent the fact that the government is attempting to gather more and more information on its electors. If there is a problem with growing pot is up to the police to enforce the current laws under their current powers.

About sums it up Sleepe.... and that's what trigger my initial reaction....

I'm sick to death of having to tell every Tom, Dick & Harry... government agency, private business and assorted odds & soda... what colour socks I wear on Thursdays and how often I change my underwear....


Apart from which... anyone paying by credit card... has provided sufficient details for police to track them anyway...

Especially if the purchase is legitimate.... if it's not (and I know credit cards can be/are forged)... then the chances are any other documentation will be dodgy, stolen anyway...

And I repeat... much of the stuff used by the "serious" indoor growers... is brought from Bunnings and nurseries anyway.... which is the complete opposite to what the un-informed moron stated...

On another note... many people who I know smoke have said that they are wary of the strength and affect of "hydro" and usually prefer "bush".... and I have no doubt that what KEII says is true...

Similarly I agree with Sleepe as to many/most/all those presenting have a predisposition... and should avoid ALL drugs...

But I also have a mate who works the Wollongong pysche/detox unit... and he is staggered at the numbers of those that present .... due to alcohol and ice, ectasy,speed etc...

The drug problem will NEVER be solved until we address the hypocracy of allowing "legal" drugs, while banning others.... the very same issue that saw many use in the "drug days" of the 60-s & 70's...

And in terms of crime, health, gambling and social issues..... alcohol and cigarettes ARE our drug problem....

Yeah, we got done for $2k on our card that had $2130 available on it 2 years ago, it's definitely happening.


Agreed. When looking for a particular valve at B, I was questioned by the helpful guy there, who wanted to find a substitute. He asked what I wanted it for, I said "Hydroponics" as AP was not well known at the time and didn't want to explain in depth (was certain he couldn't help anyhow)
He then proceeds to tell me, he has plenty at home, and would swap me for some weed. Using jargon I wasn't familiar with, i missed what he was saying.
He then tells me that he makes a sideline bypassing mains electricity to power marijuana farms in factories and homes!!!
OMG, I backed out very carefully :-)



Yes, cigarettes are crap, they stress you out while making you feel calm, and give you cancer.

Alcohol is the lesser evil if not taken to excess. (often)

I wonder what would happen should marijuana and other alcohol like drugs were made legal.

I am against making alcohol illegal, prohibition proved that wont work, but then, the same argument could be used for marijuana, as if it were not illegal, it wouldn't be grown 'underground' and there's be no point with the cost of psychosis inducing hydroponic weed. ppl would just grow it in their backyard, or from some1 else who did. Hydro would be reserved for those who take things to excess.

Then I must ask, if we were to do this, would the same argument be issued regarding cocaine, heroine, ice etc?
and would we support it?

IMHO we should ban things known to have a permanent bad effect, eg cigarettes, heroine, ice, and legalise those that are ok in moderation, but can screw you up with excess, eg alcohol, coca leaves, ?marijuana?.
Don't know enough about dope to know if it fits into the second category. I'm a good boy me

Wasn't long ago that you could attend a Perth police auction, and buy the haligen lights and hoods back from the police with the intention to raise chickens

Nicotine - chemically addictive, causes cancer and emphysema
Alchohol in excess - chemically addictive, destroys brain cells, causes antisocial behevior in many.
Heroin- chemically addictive
Amphetamines - not chemically addictive however causes behevioral change if used to excess and psychosis if predisposed
Marijuana - not chemically addictive however can trigger psychosis if predisposed
Coffee (Caffeine) - mildly chemically addictive can cause stress and mood swings (depression)

Marijuana - ban forced on most of the world by the USA because of the competition between Hemp and Nylon for ropemaking. (See Dupont and HJ Anslinger).

Right so by my book, nicotine and heroin should be banned
Alcohol, Amphetamines, marijuana, and caffeine should be controlled.

Alcohol, is mildly controlled - not enough perhaps, as there are still many ppl becoming addicted.
Caffeine is controlled, as there's a maximum % allowed in drinks

so let's change the law for speed and weed
and ban fags while we're at it!

Ahh but hang on... Heroin does not damage bodily organs, it's only the poor lifestyle that generally goes along with heavy use, and ingredients that it's cut with in the supply chains that cause the problems.

Very interesting doco on the ABC a few years back comparing heroin and alcohol.

Funny how Government imposes this on the rest of the country. Don't they grow it legal in Canberra.


My brother is one of those that has a predisposition and ended up is a special hospital a few times. Just think he would never have been able to consume the amounts to trigger his mind if he was not taking duromine at the same time. But if I remember the THC was the only thing that they found in his system when he was admited. But with most problems of the mind once the damage is done its done.

HELLO PUDACAT :

Ok from some one from experience with all of the above........nicotine is a repeat action, heroin is simply bliss, then you can be come reliant upon it, and it ends up feeling like anouther organ ....not that I would ever think you all would ever understand a depenadancy

Speed freaks are using unnatural substaces, being pharacuetics...made from fertilizers...go figure, the system is chocked up from the ice epidemic......

If I had my way I would shoot on site every meth lab associate

"Ahh but hang on... Heroin does not damage bodily organs"

There was also one on SBS EB which is why I did not list it other than addictive.

"Caffeine is controlled, as there's a maximum % allowed in drinks"
Aside from the fact you can make coffee as strong as you like and Coca Cola put it in their product to hook the young. Sorry KP has to go.

It doesn't BUT it's dependency need is huge.......and its so highly addicitive 'cause its the great escape from reality.......

Yes you can look at psychosis in terms of "predisposition". Sometimes this predispostition becomes triggered for no particular reason and then someone experiences a psychotic episode. Other times a psychotic episode might be triggered by something eg drugs or stress. There are however people that may have a predisposition (but we would never know) but never have a psychotic episode. If you want to look at psychosis from this model then it is not the predisposition that causes psychosis, it is the trigger that causes it.

Thats right in my world too. In all of the problems that i see in the emergency department, ranging from relationship breakdown to physical trauma(eg car accidents or even just falling over) to psychosis, you could add up all of the problems caused by all of the illegal drugs together and they wouldn't come close to the problems caused by alcohol (by a factor of about 10:1!)

Both cannabis and amphetamines can be chemically addictive but like other drugs such as alcohol they are not addictive in all people, and tollerence can develop at different levels in different people. Most of those drugs can cause temporary or permanant physical and/or chemical changes in the brain and other organs.
Plenty of references available if anyone is interested.

I cant say I want to ban all drugs. If it wasn't for caffeine I wouldn't have been able to drive to Ruperts' place and back in 3 days