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Stu, i had to delete your second last post, as you posted it while i was splitting the topic! :)

I tried reposting it for you, but the "change author" button i have won't work, so it came up as me!

cut and paste from below and repost if you like, then i can delete this post :)

Monya wrote: I have a lot to learn don't I. However, like VB, I will leave it there, maybe somethings are better not to know about, considering bar drinking stupid spring water, or living in queensland, there is nothing we can do about it


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That's cool Steve, caryy on!! I just had to eascape back to dinner- the kids were about to kill each other over the last piece of broccoli!!!


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Man you're worse than me for not being able to tear yourself away! Doesn't the BOSS crack it :shock: ?


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I am one lucky guy. My wife tolerates it really well, because she is happy that I have found something that interests me and I can get into!! She also likes to look over my shoulder and read the posts!! She's also pretty keen on the whole idea. We have always had this dream of being semi self sufficient- now we can see a light at the end of the self sufficiency tunnel.....


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Well, since she is an "over the shoulder reader"...... Hi there Stuarts lovely wife! :)


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Now that she's not looking, I must say that I do aquire a good number of brownie points cooking dinner and doing the dishes on a large number of nights per week. All parties are happy with this arrangement!!!


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Stu, I know what you mean about "better not knowing" much of the population feels this way, Personally i like to be informed. I haven't gone to the extent of de-fluoriding my water, but that is another story for other reasons. But i still like to know so i can make little changes where i can. Know what i mean? :)

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Now that she's not looking, I must say that I do aquire a good number of brownie points cooking dinner and doing the dishes on a large number of nights per week. All parties are happy with this arrangement!!!


You bloody legend good on ya mate!


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Now Steve, you know about our public campaigner dentist who wound up eating his words?


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no, tell me please


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What the hell are you doing up it's ten to 7 here making it 4:50 there!


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OK you'll love this one - here's the sworn affidavit.

Dentist Switches Sides

None of this surprises me anymore. Smeltering, pharmaceuticals, petrochemical, all cut from the same inhuman cloth. And politicians that fellate them for cash.


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Its reall hard not to subscribe to the "conspiracy" theory when;

Victoria has a fluoridation act excempting the state from legal damages associated with anything relating to the fluordation of our water.......WHY?

1995. Tasmania attempts to ban public meetings held to discuss fluoridation. WHY?

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In November 1999, Professor Limeback, Head of Preventive Dentistry, University of Toronto, President of Canadian Association of Dental Research, and the country's leading fluoride authority, publicly apologised to his faculty members and the media for mistakenly promoting water fluoridation for over 15 years.
His apology included the following:" Skeletal fluorosis is a debilitating condition that occurs when fluoride accumulates in bone making them extremely weak and brittle. The earliest symptoms are mottled and brittle teeth. In Canada, we are now spending more on dental fluorosis than we do treating cavities." He added: "Dentists have absolutely no training in toxicity. Your well- intentioned dentist is simply following 50 years of misinformation from public health and the dental association. Me, too. Unfortunately, we were wrong. Poisoning children was the furthest thing from my mind."
He was dismissed by the university, but was subsequently reinstated with $150,000 damages on a wrongful dismissal action. WHY?


Dr Phyllis Mullinex demonstrates Central Nervous System damage in rats at the same blood-fluoride levels as humans drinking fluoridated water. Her funding grant is withdrawn, she is sent to a children’s hospital with no research funding, and her laboratory and all equipment and records are destroyed 3 days later. WHY?

Too many unanswered yet painfully obvious questions.

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Dr John Colquhoun in New Zealand seeks to publish NZ school dental statistics which show that tooth decay was the same if not better in unfluoridated areas. Dr Colquhoun was the chief dental offcier in Auckland, and for 2 years had been the chairman of the NZ Government's Fluoridation Promotion Committee. The Director-General of Health refused permission. (Fluoridation was, and still is, a strongly promoted Government policy in NZ). Dr Colquhoun retired shortly after and published it anyway. He notes that although these were official figures he could not get his analysis published in either the medical or dental journal in NZ: he had to get it published by a body which was not politically aligned with fluoridation. He supported Dr George Waldbott's observation that such journals regularly refuse to publish adverse research on fluoride.
Dr Colquhoun stated in a sworn affadavit:
" I was shocked to discover, when the statistics were sent to me, they revealed no such benefit. In fact, in most Health Districts the percentage of children who were "caries-free" was higher in the non-fluoridated areas than in the fluoridated areas. I disagreed sharply with my superiors' action in circulating a document, "overview of fluoridation statistics," which omitted the above information, disgracefully "doctored" the remaining statistics, and claimed that a marginal benefit existed. When, in addition, I discovered that dental fluorosis prevalences (a sign of fluoride toxicity) were much higher than expected in fluoridated areas, I publicly changed my stance on fluoridation in 1983."


Yet the public blindly accepts..............................................


And all this with out even touching on the mandated and unregulated
(per kg) prescription of a known hazerdous and cancer causing substance.........................................

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"Fluoridation is the biggest medical fraud in history, and it has been perpetrated on more people than any other. It will dwarf the Thalidomide tragedy." - Dr Albert Schatz, Nobel prize in medicine.


AA, you should know about the "other" medical fraud by now..........

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Babies fed formula made with fluoridated water get about 100 times the level of fluoride in mother’s milk.


I feel sick :(

SOURCE: http://www.saynotofluoridation.org.nz/history.html


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thanks AA, i found and incorporated it in my last post while i was waiting for your reply:)

Yeh, i know 4:50am :( had a fight with the GF when she got home from a friends place at 3:30am (not about the time, about not letting me know.....i worry), then couldn't sleep so watched a freshly "aquired" episode of atlantis and checked the board.

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