Backyard Aquaponics
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Sorry thought you were being sarcastic

You guys must be with the chip police.

So they need to make the bag extra large just so they can pump in more of the special air. Makes total sense you guys . They should have a balloon sales operation fill the balloons/bags with helium and attach a string so kids can play with their food. They could call them "light chips" then too.

Hydrogen might be more interesting, they could name them "lighter chips"

For a part I was, the rest not. No worry, though!

@ Maria, like someone said you can send a sample of your water to your local Agriculture University and they will run a good analysis of what you are working with. Here in Texas A&M did one for me for $20.00, they also do soil samples too.

Rob C

Hmm... I am thinking... I got into AP just because of those fee lunches over internet. Information is free these days... thanks to internet. People share and learn and in AP, I feel, there can't be any competitors because it is absolutely localized operation. We need millions of AP operations to take on the world and feed the people chemical-free organic food.

Nanniode

That is a fair opinion, so you are welcome to give all your information away for free.
But your opinion does not mean that everybody else should live by those standards.

If Ryan or anybody wants to work hard and be ahead of the R&D curve, then use that knowledge to make an income and support their family by being able to make money from consulting or publishing the information, then that is up to them.

Once that information is out in the public domain it is then worthless so the window to profit from it is small.

If everything you need to know is on the internet then no need to worry about anybody that does not wish to share their knowledge. As you would be able to get it elsewhere.

Unless that information is not in the public domain yet.

Rickie, well said.

There can't be any more secrets in AP; it is all in the public domain, I think so. For the so-called secret-holders the objective for living is to maintain, guard and protect their secrets from being exposed to 'the public zone'. It might rob them and those secrets control their life and forum responses.

I feel strongly that people should share their AP stories more freely in the forums.

Humm.. I'm confused Nanniode..

On the one hand you say that you think all information about aquaponics should be freely available to everyone...

On the other.. you want to charge local people to attend a workshop to give them freely available information...

And to charge as a consultant... or even as a referral agent... for information that you think should be freely available...

Even at a commercial level.... huh??

Cold stratification in a refrigerator Stuart
I live in one of the highest elevations in the pan handle of our state, nestled between the peek of two hills in the middle of a swamp. We range a bit cooler and can grow grapes and other fruits/veggies that the rest of the state has problems with which helps the tulips. The other main factor is in variety selection. I've grown them for several years so will go with what has worked in the past.

Well, it would be a good business deal to get info for free on the web and then sell it for a nice price to others that were not able to find that info (yet) or have no access to the web. Maria and Nannoo are trying hard.....

Rupert I honestly think that I should not waste time talking to you.... because you are so negative in thinking and looking at your PMs, it has profit motives in every word you utter in the forums. I am okay with your profit making enterprises but I am unable to visualize you as a successful AP farmer. You had hydroponics pictures and a website never opens and all is past. You did not answer me on several occasions what you currently have?

I see your tactics now Rupert.. learn from asking 1000 questions and get answers for other people or for other external forums where you are a GURU... Rupert, sorry I am not going to answer a single question from you going forward...

I am saying this after two or more vodka okay, so you should pardon me if I said anything wrong.

Really... I'm merely responding to your posts... your experience, or lack of... and the potentially negative impact that might have on any "commercialisation" of aquaponics in your area/country...

I have no doubt that you see that as negative...

But please do not misrepresent my PM's to you.... by attributing some ulterior motive.. or suggest that I did so for some reason of "profit motives"...

I PM'd you to provide you with the name and contact details of someone...who was currently in your country... and who has experience...

And who might have been able to assist you... (with no experience)... in the building of a large scale commercial operation... for an investor...

In response to your post asking "who" might be able to assist...

When I suggested that they would most likely only deal directly with the proposed client in terms of a design contract.....

Your response was.... "so what financial benefit can I get if I go by this?"

And you have posted consistently about consultation and fees etc....

So before you call the "kettle black".... I think you should examine and be honest about YOUR motivations...

Which by your posts would seem to suggest quite clearly that you whole intent, purpose and direction... is personal financial gain... irrespective of any demonstrated experience...


As to myself.. and systems... which clearly demonstrate some level of aquaponics success...


I have never been.. or suggested that I have/were, or are.. a commercial AP farmer.. in fact I've specifically stated that any systems I have had, or built... were NOT "commercial".. or "profitable"... or even close to being commercially viable...

As to my "hydroponic pictures"... yes I have posted some pictures of my previous commercial hydroponics operation (nearly 20 years ago)... and some pictures of NFT components incorporated within my AP systems...

Perhaps you either haven't read my past threads... or lack the knowledge to interpret what I was doing...

Yes my threads are "past".. and represent a "history" of my nearly 8 years of AP experience....

As to my current system.. and/or website... they haven't been posted because they have been/are effectively in a "holding" pattern.. due to personal health and financial circumstances... and may, or may not continue...


I don't care if you choose to ignore me.. which you undoubtedly will...

I don't really care if you run workshops and charge for them... or "consult"...

But I question your knowledge based on what you post.. and my own experience... and question your professed "open source" attitude...

Good luck to you with any "commercial" application...and may god help those that might be involved based on your experience to date...

Can I edit/remove my previous post?

Sorry Rupert, what I said was really insensitive of me. I shouldn't have said that. It wasn't fair. I was being judgmental and gossipy — and I don't feel proud of that. I just want to say I'm sorry. I messed up.

Accepted.... everyone has their moments... even me...

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