Backyard Aquaponics
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Thanks Troutman.

Cheers Gavin
Let us know when you have got it up.

I'm not sure if I am missing something here, but it seems to me that this ttanslocation approval applies only to people moving fish?

So if I was to recieve fish from Troutman, he would require the approval and I wouldn't.

As Troutman says in his first post...

But is that assuming the purchaser is the one driving with the fish in car? If the fish are being delivered to your house I would think as no wukkins that the permit would need to be held by the deliverer

sorry for that poorly constructed sentence.

Gazza, I believe that this is mostly so the fisheries dept can varify the fish will not be moved to or held in situations that may cause issues within australian waterways. A lot of the questions in the form and statements within the form indicate the fisheries dept are after as much information they can to determine if it will be safe to do so. Its more so they need all the relevant information.

Just like DVD stores, pet stores are going out of fashion very fast. Joondalup Lakeside closed end 2011, Kingsway shopping centre closed end 2011, and a couple others not in shopping centres also closed.

its time for the new black to emerge...

I spoke to an employee at a Hydroponics store in malaga on the weekend and they reckon business is still doing well. not as well as aquaponics i should imagine.... he had never seen a working aquaponics system!

cheers

Hey troutman, does this mean you won't sell fish to someone who hasn't got translocation approval? Or is it just a heads up to anyone who's buying from you in case they get into strife?

Anyway, the translocation is the actual movement of the fish, so if you are still making the trip up to Perth regularly, it shouldn't be a problem for most of us.

Ok guys, made a few calls and spoke to a friendly gentleman John Eyers from the dept of fisheries and he has informed me that people need to not freak out about this for the moment. The translocation policies were primarily and still are about the actual movement of fish from state to state or in and out of the country. As Gavin mentioned they are working on streamlining the processes for AP approval as in most cases fish are kept in an enclosed tank and not normally in ponds in your backyard. He also told me that this approval is not really needed nor was designed for when you are moving fish within an area e.g. from suburb to suburn within perth as these fish have already been managed for that region. Also the person that is moving the fish is the only one that needs the approval, so if your worried about anything - get your fish delivered. He mentioned that it may take up to 6 months to finalise the management program they are working on now.

Hope this clears it up peeps

That says it is needed for ornamental fish.
There is no way you could ever get every person with a fish tank to complete a translocation permit.

only if your moving them from state to state or in and out of the country andrew.

Thats what you were told.
But look at the website

I am always reluctant to trust something that was told to me, they can always later say that you must have misinterpreted what was said.

And the first paragraph of the pdf file


And one of the tick boxes in purposes for which the fish are kept is ornamental display/hobby.

Might be an idea to email him and get the response in writing...

Haa this is turning into a typical fisheries dept fiasco.
I spoke to John yesterday and was told that anyone I was to sell fish to should have first received Translocation Approval. Its the actual new location where the fish are to be moved to that they are interested in not the journey in getting there that's why its up to the purchaser of the fish to obtain the approval. I can understand this when the fish are going into a farm dam as they may not want fish getting into rivers within that catchment but how can a fish escape from an aquaponics system in someones backyard?
I think Werdna has hit the nail on the head, I'll get him to give me something in writing or even post here as to what they want.
I think the fisheries rules are so outdated that even those that work there have trouble in enforcing them.