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junkie
PostPosted: Nov 28th, '11, 11:41 
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Noticed an AP video on Utube and picked up their details in the vid. Some of the images look rather familiar, not sure if this crowd has been mentioned before...
http://www.organicaponics.com/why-aquaponics/

*Edit - Take a look at their video on the front page... basically incorporates everything good (and commercial) from perma & aquaculture + AP. Will it ever be built, that is the question.


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RupertofOZ
PostPosted: Nov 28th, '11, 11:46 
All the images are owned by Backyard Aquaponics...

Except for one... which is mine.... :evil:


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PostPosted: Nov 28th, '11, 11:52 
I don't know if "organicaquaponics" is owned by him... but the training course is being run by "Max Meyers" of Norcal Aquaponics...

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Max Meyers a Certified Permaculture Teacher, Designer and consultant. He is the executive director of the Mendocino Ecological Learning Center (MELC) and runs a Permaculture consultation business.


Max Meyers

Mr. Meyers is a certified Aquaponics system designer and in the creator of truly self sufficient Permaculture based Aquaponics systems he calls "Meyers Systems".


He's a "certified aquaponics system designer"... eh.... self appointed of course....

And in all the time he's been around... he's only posted two "projects"... one at a high school... the other at the location where he's offering the "course"....

http://norcalaquaponics.com/projects.php

But that's what he's really on about... training opportunities... :wink:
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PostPosted: Nov 28th, '11, 11:53 
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Hahahaha.... an exact copy of our info page, text and all, gees don't they look familiar.

http://www.backyardaquaponics.com/information.html

http://www.organicaponics.com/why-aquaponics/
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RupertofOZ wrote:

But that's what he's really on about... training opportunities... :wink:


And getting grant money...

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The system has been funded by donations and a $12,000 grant from North Coast Opportunities
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PostPosted: Nov 28th, '11, 11:56 
Here's the info for the "site" FYI...

Green Society

275 Woodland Dr.
Laguna Beach, California 92651
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: ORGANICAPONICS.COM
Created on: 27-Jan-11
Expires on: 27-Jan-12
Last Updated on: 28-Jan-11

Administrative Contact:
James, Casey greensocietyorg@gmail.com
Green Society
275 Woodland Dr.
Laguna Beach, California 92651
United States
(866) 801-1910

Technical Contact:
James, Casey greensocietyorg@gmail.com
Green Society
275 Woodland Dr.
Laguna Beach, California 92651
United States
(866) 801-1910

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PostPosted: Nov 28th, '11, 12:04 
And here's the scumbags facebook page... http://www.facebook.com/greensociety

(Now lives in Bangkok apparantly)...

And the main greensociety facebook page... http://www.facebook.com/greensociety#!/ ... 9765568748


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RupertofOZ wrote:
All the images are owned by Backyard Aquaponics...

Yep, I was being sarcastic ;)

Here's the video I watched where I found out about Organicaponics/Green Society: http://youtu.be/tX3hELqzm1Y

Do these people think that because people are into sustainable/organic/free-loving/spirituality/<insert latest buzzword/new age or other here>, that IP is freely available and allowed to be lifted/scraped/stolen and used wherever they see fit? :flower:
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Its OK! They haven't stolen or copied the images! They are using them from the BYAP Web Server.

Here is an image tag from their source:

<img src="http://www.backyardaquaponics.com/images/stories/webpagestuff/fishlettuce.jpg" alt="fishlettuce" width="400" height="254" />

Which means that when you view the http://www. organicaponics .com/why-aquaponics/ website they are 'stealing' bandwidth from BYAP.

In fact - looking at the HTML behind the two sites, all they have done is view source, copy and paste.
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arbe wrote:
In fact - looking at the HTML behind the two sites, all they have done is view source, copy and paste.

Isn't that how all web devs/designers code these days? ;)

You have to love the balls (or shiver at the thought) of statements like this: "All of our efforts will result in building temporary and/or permanent Intentional Communities, that are owned and managed by the Green Society Ministries." - from the Green Soc's site.

*Edit - here's another 'Ctrl-c, Ctrl-v' webpage... http://www.greensociety.co/aquaponics/
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And don't you love the fact that they put a copyright at the bottom of their pages..... :?

That video says that their 49,000 Gallon system will produce 15,000lb of fish a year and 160,000 lb of veggies, and it only uses 300W a day... They must be doing things no one else can..
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PostPosted: Nov 28th, '11, 13:20 
This guy is a complete shonk...

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Casey James Carlson – Green Society Ministries - Executive Director

Casey Carlson is the Executive Director of the Green Society Ministries. He has spent the last 7 years handling private and public operations of the Green Society subsidiaries and diplomatic relations of Green Society Ministries as a NGO to aid in the development of a greening the United States. His professional background includes video production, animation, event coordination, creative design, conceptual design, web design, networking and social architecture.


Get a load of his profile photo... on the GS Management page...

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And check out the "about GS" page... http://www.greensociety.us/

These guys are just funding their travels and lifestyles.... hiding behind a "business"... and NGO structure...

And they call themselves "hippies" and "spiritualists"... :lol:
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He looks like an owner operator (if you get what I mean)!
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PostPosted: Nov 28th, '11, 13:53 
A corporate "hippie".. with a new age scifi messianic ministry complex....

Or probably just more like, a tax evading, buldger that couldn't hack being on the dole.. because he wants the trappings of capitalistic society... without the mundane humdrum and work ethic that's required...
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Damn this logo is popular! :shock:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Aquaponic ... 3968968637
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Aquaponic ... 44?sk=wall
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=123801694323429
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Aquaponic ... 7837892518

Time to copyright the living daylights out of it! Or maybe create a new logo - but it's been said that to be copied is a form of flattery... :think:
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