All times are UTC + 8 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 115 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: May 29th, '08, 08:40 
Xtreme Contributor
Xtreme Contributor

Joined: May 4th, '08, 20:08
Posts: 235
Location: Gold Coast, Qld, Australia
Gender: Male
Chappo wrote:
Ph my goodness.
Hamish,,I'm not sure if you wear dentures but my teeth definately are natural and showallthe classic signs of an Omnivore. 3rd tooth left and right of centre are canine shaped for riping and tearing meat, rear molars for grinding grains and vegiie matter.
Part of the human race's success , is it's adaptability in being able to eat near anything and having the brain power to get it.

Those who choose to be vegetarian , have my full support ( it leaves more meat for me) but please don't try and tell others that humans are not Omnivores.

:)

Hahahaha - I knew that would stir you up! Heres something else to stir you up! I didnt say people that Humans were not Omnivores. But an Omnivore does not necesarily eat red meat! As stated by someone else they eat whatever they can lay their hands on. Eggs, fish (which is easily digested and chewed even if uncooked) grains, fruit veges.

When was the last time you tried to catch an animal with your bare hands. And eat it without using tools or cooking it. I cant imagine even your razor sharp canine teeth would rip through the hide of a cow and allow you te eat its juicy rump!


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
    Advertisement
 
PostPosted: May 29th, '08, 08:46 
Xtreme Contributor
Xtreme Contributor

Joined: May 4th, '08, 20:08
Posts: 235
Location: Gold Coast, Qld, Australia
Gender: Male
Jaymie wrote:
but Hamish, how old were you when you started on the road to vegetarianism? I think part of what is being said is that non-vegetarian diets for children makes for taller adults.

Yeah - fair call. But im certainly not your typical scrawny, pale skinned/pasty, sick looking vego either :)


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: May 29th, '08, 08:50 
Xtreme Contributor
Xtreme Contributor

Joined: May 4th, '08, 20:08
Posts: 235
Location: Gold Coast, Qld, Australia
Gender: Male
Oh - and I should add that im just winding you up Chappo - I am a vegetarian and love it - but I am not someone to stand on a soap box and tell people what to eat. I will even cook meat for others. Damn - I am doing AP to grow fish for friends and family - even though I wont be eating them! Its up to them what they eat! THe fish just help my veges grow along the way! Who knows - I might even try the fish once they are big enough! :D


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: May 29th, '08, 08:50 
A posting God
A posting God
User avatar

Joined: Nov 3rd, '06, 01:30
Posts: 3131
Location: Cochranville, Pennsylvania USA
Gender: Female
Are you human?: yes
Location: Pennsylvania, USA
I was raised lacto-ovo vegetarian and organic most of my childhood out of interest in health. When I went away to college and was required to live in the dorms the first year, the cafeteria's idea of providing for vegetarians was "There's a salad bar and peanut butter is always available." Needless to say, I started eating meats again -- poultry and fish. I was well aware of protein and nutrient requirements at a young age, and never lacked, even when a vegetarian. Attention to balance is important, but it's not hard to get enough protein on even a vegan diet. Including eggs and dairy makes it child's play.

I still eat fish and poultry, never re-developed a taste for beef, and although pork crept back in to my diet for a while, it's on its way back out. (Bacon is a vegetable, right?) The more I learn about the US meat and dairy industries, the less I want that stuff in my diet or my children's. Meat is of course, a concentrated food, with plenty of protein and nutrients, but it also concentrates at least some of whatever else the animal ate. The excess antibiotics and other medications that are pumped into the animals is concerning, and the junk they are fed is sickening. I'm also trying to reduce meat in our diet in general, not only out of concern for our health, but also as a way to help the planet. Apparently how much meat you eat has much more an of impact to the environment than any food-mile ever did.

I do figure that a person's diet is their personal choice, but I keep wishing that people would make informed choices. Too many people in this country don't seem to think about what they eat, its impact on their own health, or its impact on the world.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: May 29th, '08, 09:59 
A posting God
A posting God

Joined: Sep 15th, '07, 09:09
Posts: 3712
Location: WA
Gender: Male
"I think part of what is being said is that non-vegetarian diets for children makes for taller adults."

Jamie
Being curious, and relatively short :) exactly what is the health advantage of being taller?


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: May 29th, '08, 10:13 
Xtreme Contributor
Xtreme Contributor

Joined: May 4th, '08, 20:08
Posts: 235
Location: Gold Coast, Qld, Australia
Gender: Male
Sleepe wrote:
"I think part of what is being said is that non-vegetarian diets for children makes for taller adults."

Jamie
Being curious, and relatively short :) exactly what is the health advantage of being taller?

When you shop at the supermarket the taller people can get the better fruit at the back of the fruit stand.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: May 29th, '08, 10:14 
Xtreme Contributor
Xtreme Contributor

Joined: May 4th, '08, 20:08
Posts: 235
Location: Gold Coast, Qld, Australia
Gender: Male
And taller people are more likely to be seen when crossing the road so there is less chance they get hit by a bus.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: May 29th, '08, 10:20 
Spam Assassin (Be afraid!)
Spam Assassin     (Be afraid!)
User avatar

Joined: Aug 24th, '06, 11:50
Posts: 10202
Location: Townsville
Gender: Female
Location: home
no idea, I was just following on from other comments.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: May 29th, '08, 10:21 
A posting God
A posting God

Joined: Sep 15th, '07, 09:09
Posts: 3712
Location: WA
Gender: Male
Most amusing Hamis :lol:
They also tend to hit their heads more.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: May 29th, '08, 11:53 
Xtreme Contributor
Xtreme Contributor

Joined: May 4th, '08, 20:08
Posts: 235
Location: Gold Coast, Qld, Australia
Gender: Male
Sleepe wrote:
Most amusing Hamis :lol:
They also tend to hit their heads more.

Yes - so they are tougher! :geek:


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: May 29th, '08, 12:06 
Bordering on Legend
Bordering on Legend

Joined: Mar 15th, '08, 17:15
Posts: 312
Location: India
Gender: Male
Hamish wrote:
Oh - and I should add that im just winding you up Chappo - I am a vegetarian and love it - but I am not someone to stand on a soap box and tell people what to eat. I will even cook meat for others. Damn - I am doing AP to grow fish for friends and family - even though I wont be eating them! Its up to them what they eat! THe fish just help my veges grow along the way!
Me too same thing...
Angie wrote:
but I do know that a healthy human being requires protein as part of their regular diet- and this can be done with a vegetarian diet, but you do need to incorporate protein in there.
:) Its not hard, its not hard, its really easy, really easy :) (oh I'm emphasizing see :))
For example when you have a worm bin, the worms can get protein poisoned (a condition where the worms' guts explode at several places because there's too much protein releasing too much amino acids and the worms can't neutralize them in the guts fast enough safely). Even when you don't put meat or milk in the worm bin, the worms can be protein poisoned in several ways (oatmeal, etc)!
Angie wrote:
The key words in any diet is balance and variety, with balance meaning- meeting all dietary requirements and within calorie requirements.
I don't know if this is possible in a country with a non-vegetarian targetted farming and stuff... but its easy here. I suggest you look at a good recipe site. (A large number of recipies may be found for Indian staple food! The raw material have great variety too.)
This is basically what Indian vegetarians eat:
South India: Staple is cooked rice. Rice is usually consumed mixed up with soups/stews/curries. The staple stews are sambar - a proteiny vegetable stew thing.(look it up), rasam (from which mullugatawny soup was inspired, yogurt (that's staple, every meal has a yogurt rice couse.) Usually fried vegetable dishes accompany.
North India: Staple is wheat. Various indian breads. Accompanied with various vegetable/cottage cheese curry. In fact I don't know much more about north India to comment upon.

Protein sources - large variety of staple legumes and pulses.
Carbohydrate sources - Ah starch is easy to get anywhere in the world.
Fats and oils: Ghee (clarified butter), coconut oil, sunflower oil, sesame oil (a really good oil!) are used staple. Also mustard oil, groundnut oil, etc in certain regions. Omega3 might be a problem - only found in flaxseed(not marketed for consumption though), a little in sesame oil, very little in mustard seeds.)
Sugars - yeah we have that in plenty.
Vitamins and minerals- fruits & veggies.(this is the tropics!)
Fibre - haha that's easy.

What else?
Ah for fun: Myriad of vegetarian snack foods.(look up internet)


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: May 29th, '08, 12:07 
Bordering on Legend
Bordering on Legend

Joined: Mar 15th, '08, 17:15
Posts: 312
Location: India
Gender: Male
Angie wrote:
I prefer to read biology, chemistry books over fashion and diet books.
Nice person :D


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: May 29th, '08, 12:07 
Bordering on Legend
Bordering on Legend

Joined: Mar 15th, '08, 17:15
Posts: 312
Location: India
Gender: Male
Angie wrote:
I prefer to read biology, chemistry books over fashion and diet books.
Nice person :D (not kidding)


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: May 29th, '08, 12:08 
Bordering on Legend
Bordering on Legend

Joined: Mar 15th, '08, 17:15
Posts: 312
Location: India
Gender: Male
sorry for double post, internet problem got stuck up while posting.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: May 29th, '08, 12:17 
Xtreme Contributor
Xtreme Contributor

Joined: May 4th, '08, 20:08
Posts: 235
Location: Gold Coast, Qld, Australia
Gender: Male
gokul wrote:
Fats and oils: Ghee (clarified butter), coconut oil, sunflower oil, sesame oil (a really good oil!) are used staple. Also mustard oil, groundnut oil, etc in certain regions. Omega3 might be a problem - only found in flaxseed(not marketed for consumption though), a little in sesame oil, very little in mustard seeds.


Flaxseed oil (I take 2 capsules each morning) are actually higher in Omega 3 and other Omegas when compared to the same size capsules of fish oil. It is just the marketing brain wash that Fish oil is the best provider of Omega 3. The Flaxseed capsules I take are also much cheaper than the fish oil capsules and there is no smell or taste (not that there is much smell or taste with fish oil in capsules either). THe woman at the chemist I go to said she is amazed more people dont buy the Flaxseed capsules rather than the Fish Oil capsules - even after she points out that Flaxseed oil has more Omega 3 content!


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 115 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8  Next

All times are UTC + 8 hours


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  

Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
Portal by phpBB3 Portal © phpBB Türkiye
[ Time : 0.042s | 13 Queries | GZIP : Off ]