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Author:  DanDMan [ Oct 27th, '08, 21:18 ]
Post subject:  Seeds not starting and growing well, pH problem?

I have planted swiss chard for the this winter, it sprouted and has not grown much more than 2.5 cm in three weeks. Could the be a pH issue? My systems pH test around 6 even though I have crushed coral in it and nothing I do brings the pH up for long.

Author:  creative1 [ Oct 27th, '08, 21:20 ]
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do you know what date you planted Dandy?

Author:  DanDMan [ Oct 27th, '08, 21:21 ]
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October 10

Author:  creative1 [ Oct 27th, '08, 21:26 ]
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so for the last 17 days it has been waning.(moon)
the new moon from the 28(Tomorrow) will see a lot of growth

Author:  DanDMan [ Oct 27th, '08, 21:46 ]
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Really? You think so?

Author:  Dave Donley [ Oct 27th, '08, 23:18 ]
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You might try baking soda as crushed oyster shells did nothing for my system's pH but that did. Don't add too much as that can be bad too. Better would be potassium bicarbonate as that would add potassium and the plants would like it better. You can get it at homebrew stores apparently, but you have large water volumes so maybe that much would be more involved to procure. Good luck!

Author:  DanDMan [ Oct 27th, '08, 23:52 ]
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I would need to be able to buy it in bulk :))
I hate that I have to order everything I need :?
Think a local winery might sell something like that?

Author:  Dave Donley [ Oct 28th, '08, 05:05 ]
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I asked the guy at our local winery and he suggested getting it from the internet or a homebrew store because their price to me would have been more expensive without their discount on it.

Author:  hydrophilia [ Oct 28th, '08, 06:53 ]
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You could add wood ashes (if you heat with wood), but only a bit at a time as it is really quite alkaline. I added it under the flow into my growbed and figure it will add potassium (hydroxide!) as well as some other important minerals. I found a tablespoon per day in 100 gallons of system water seemed ok.

Author:  creative1 [ Oct 28th, '08, 07:04 ]
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DanDMan wrote:
Really? You think so?

yes but while everyone goes :roll: check out the moon phases thread.

Author:  TCLynx [ Oct 28th, '08, 08:54 ]
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The seedlings shouldn't mind a pH of 6 too much though the bacteria and fish would probably like it a little higher.

I have noticed in the past with seedlings, they often will get started and then seem to just sit around for a couple few weeks before really taking off. I sometimes think they are spending that time growing roots to support their planned top growth. This could possibly also align with moon phase since the timing sounds about right even if I have never really paid attention to such things much myself.

Author:  creative1 [ Oct 28th, '08, 09:16 ]
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Moon phases chart required :cyclopsani:

. :lol: Though ours is on the dunny door :roll:

Author:  Nocky [ Oct 28th, '08, 12:59 ]
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http://www.ngnautoclub.com/station/narrogin.htm is a moon phase chart for lower wa at the bottom of link, this is weather data from my house as well

Author:  DanDMan [ Oct 29th, '08, 20:49 ]
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I like the wood ash idea; free and loaded with minerals :)

My next new moon is November 19'th http://www.almanac.com/astronomy/moon/index.php

I am going to plant a grow bed full of wheat and see what happens. Has anyone grown wheat?

Author:  Outbackozzie [ Oct 29th, '08, 20:51 ]
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Not afaik. Broadacre AP :D

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