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PostPosted: Sep 27th, '15, 06:29 
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Something I will try with a few seeds I'm about to germinate, I've been trying a few different thing for better germination and nothing stands as yet :dontknow:

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Copy and paste the link, into a new tab, it works then.

When I was looking into tomato grafting techniques last year there was mention of using peroxide in the process, mainly to ensure no contamination for a clean and healthy graft. Whether or not it has a similar impact for germination and rooting cuttings I don't know. From reading the conclusion of your link the ongoing use of water with peroxide in it wasn't good, so if you did try it, once the seeds have germinated I'd stop. But personally I wouldn't think it would have a huge impact if you keep the environment in which you are germinating and rooting clean.


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I haven't done anything as yet, and the Peroxide would definitely only be to start the germination and only on a few seeds to try it out.

I want to try both Peroxide and Wood Vinegar to start some Moringa Oleifera seeds. Moringa seeds need to be soaked for at least 12 hours, some Moringa growers soak their seeds for a few days and they are quite tricky seed to germinate.

The last lot of Moringa I soaked overnight and had no luck at all so I'll see if the Peroxide and Wood Vinegar makes any difference. I think Dasboot was going to try the Wood Vinegar for germination.

The Moringa is a pretty tough seed to start, I don't think I'd use the Peroxide or Wood Vinegar on any other seeds.


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APPLE CIDER. vinegar was suggested to me as a more gentle vinegar

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When in school for agriculture, we did an experiment with rooting cuttings of various plants in test tubes... one set in plain water and another with an airstone. The cuttings in the bubbling water had a much higher success rate and faster rooting. I forget the specific numbers but I was impressed.

The connection to this thread is that since HydroPeroxide degrades into water and O2, I wonder if the additional O2 in the water is as much responsible for increased success in rootings.

I also know that some seeds, particularly in orchids, they actually require the presence of eithera fungus or bacteria (think it was fungi) but the point is, depending on the seed type, any anti-bacterial action might be a detriment.


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Poppa I think you're right the decomposition of hydrogen peroxide decomposing into water and oxygen is probably what the gain in germination is plus manganese and as you say with some seeds the anti-bacterial action of the peroxide it probably would be detrimental.

There's a guy online suggests spraying seedlings with hydrogen peroxide as a foliar spray but he doesn't give any details on what percentage to use. I'll try using peroxide at 1/2 cap per litre as a starting point.

I've been using coconut coir as my seed raising media and found that it retains the moisture better than normal seed raising mix and easier to control how damp I want the media to stay and now I will try using it with peroxide.

http://www.fs.fed.us/rm/pubs_exp_forest ... r_r001.pdf





BuiDoi it must be your tablet, try the PDF above and see if that will load :dontknow:


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