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Author:  ROB_K [ Jul 16th, '14, 03:55 ]
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Yard is a bit overrun by wild black berries. Used to have a domestic thornless that did berries the size of your thumb but that has almost been choked out by the wild ones. So this is more of an interest. Do black berries do ok in AP? I hacked a few stems and shoved into grow bed and they look fine. Searching around the forum I don't see anything.

These are the thorned wild ones and I mostly run them over with the mower. Small berries very seedy and sweet as hell. If the thornless ones could do better in AP I'll try them out next year.

Pic attached shows the thornless to the thorned black berry plant.

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Author:  Stuart Chignell [ Jul 16th, '14, 05:28 ]
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Kudapucat is growing black berries in his system but you don't see him on the forum very often lately.
Author:  Colum Black-Byron [ Jul 16th, '14, 07:42 ]
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I'd be very surprised if they didn't go nuts.

It's one thing I can grow in the ground without hassle. I think they'd be like mint with thorns and longer branches.

I was going to plant them, but I think they'd go nuts and be hard to control.
Author:  ROB_K [ Jul 16th, '14, 12:00 ]
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I just lopped them off and stuck them in.

They are a pain in the ass. I think the thornless went feral and the thorned have taken over. I need to remove them from that area but there are so many. The family next door killed off the fence line where they where leaning over. And the pain is not worth picking as much. I'll get a picture of that area. Maybe able to find a sucker on the thornless for the grow bed.

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Author:  Gunagulla [ Jul 16th, '14, 13:24 ]
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I have some thornless cuttings from our in-ground thornless vine, which I intend to plant in the AP once it warms up a bit. I expect they will go really well.
I've got thorned wild ones growing all over my front paddock, which I need to seriously cut back one of these days, but for now we charge people a small fee to come out and pick them in summer, as they are guaranteed not to have toxic herbicides on them, unlike the ones growing by the roadside in the nearby mountains.
Author:  Sargent [ Jul 16th, '14, 20:24 ]
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Gday Rob might be a bit like putting two rabbits in a cage and wondering if they will bread
Author:  dbird [ Jul 16th, '14, 22:00 ]
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Thornless blackberries grow well in AP.Thorned ones grow like mint and everytime I went near them I got hooked up so out they went.
Author:  ROB_K [ Jul 16th, '14, 23:46 ]
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Sargent wrote:
Gday Rob might be a bit like putting two rabbits in a cage and wondering if they will bread


If it is a male and female it will turn into a fuzzy cube within months.

Maybe just one of those things where it grows nice in dirt and hard to kill off so why mess with in AP.
Author:  earthbound [ Jul 17th, '14, 08:21 ]
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After witnessing the problems my mate has on his farm with blackberries, and how they have taken over the bush all around his property, growing way up into the state forest. I'll never plant any type of blackberry anywhere..
Author:  Stuart Chignell [ Jul 17th, '14, 15:39 ]
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There is a variety of Italian blackberry growing up the road that i want to get cuttings of.
Author:  Bender [ Jul 17th, '14, 20:31 ]
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earthbound wrote:
After witnessing the problems my mate has on his farm with blackberries, and how they have taken over the bush all around his property, growing way up into the state forest. I'll never plant any type of blackberry anywhere..

+1 EB. I have spent countless hours controlling blackberry infestations in bushland


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Author:  Samuel L Jackson [ Jul 18th, '14, 03:35 ]
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what kind of temps/climate do blackberries like? We are trying some out (subtropical climate), but I have never seen anyone around here growing them so I assumed there was a reason for that.
Author:  Stuart Chignell [ Jul 18th, '14, 04:34 ]
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They need a reasonable amount of water and more temperate than tropical temperatures.

Blackberries are rife throughout southern and eastern Australia but once you start going inland and north they quickly disappear.
Author:  joblow [ Jul 18th, '14, 04:42 ]
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Samuel they've been known to grow on every continent except for Antarctica and as Stuart said we have major problems in Australia with it growing in the wild and it's classed as a weed here.


http://www.ehow.com/way_5553920_climate ... rries.html
http://rubus.ces.ncsu.edu/rubus-weather-climate/

http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets ... mplete.pdf
http://www.weeds.org.au/WoNS/blackberry ... ter_04.pdf
Author:  Gunagulla [ Jul 18th, '14, 05:19 ]
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Yes the wild ones in Australia prefer the cooler areas that have higher rainfall, but a friend in Phoenix, Arizona has a nice big patch thriving in his back yard, so a long as they get enough water, they will grow in most regions.
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