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Chives, a Heavy Nitrogen feeder and bio insecticide
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Author:  DanDMan [ Oct 6th, '07, 03:31 ]
Post subject:  Chives, a Heavy Nitrogen feeder and bio insecticide
ADM :evil3: has a large scale Tilapia operation producing 50,000 pounds of fish a month. :shock:

Its a self contained system from birth to death. They feed their fish a 77.75% mixture of distillers solids and soy meal. It gives them great growth, so the idea is its GOOD to distill your own alcohol so you can have a good source of starch free protein. Its also VERY cheap. So, just an idea for cheap feed and a little home brew is not bad either! :drunken:

What really got my attention is that ADM uses a large bed of chives as a bio filter because they are heavy nitrate feeders. Further, they don't sell the chives they make an emulsion of chives concentrate to use a human safe biodegradable organic insecticide which they use next door at their large lettuce and cucumber green houses! Now that has really got me thinking; "What a great idea".

ADM may be a beast, but they do know how to pull a profit. It seems that this would work for us on a backyard scale. Its should be safe right?

Heres a b&w pic of one of their chive bios filters:
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Its hard to tell in the pic, but thy have a floating raft system.
Author:  tamo42 [ Oct 6th, '07, 05:58 ]
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That is really cool. And stills are easy to make asevidenced by all of human history.
Author:  creative1 [ Oct 6th, '07, 06:08 ]
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wonder if the soy is a GM product?
Author:  steve [ Oct 6th, '07, 08:18 ]
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i'm not familiar with ADM
Author:  RupertofOZ [ Oct 6th, '07, 08:47 ]
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Think it's these guys Steve....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archer_Daniels_Midland
Author:  rassd71 [ Oct 6th, '07, 08:49 ]
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Yeah, I'd love to learn more...
Author:  Jaymie [ Oct 6th, '07, 08:50 ]
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hmmm, that was an interesting read :?
Author:  steve [ Oct 6th, '07, 08:51 ]
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cool, CV includes price fixing and environmental terrorism :)
Author:  Jaymie [ Oct 6th, '07, 08:53 ]
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don't forget the slavery
Author:  DanDMan [ Oct 6th, '07, 09:25 ]
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So what do you think about the chive insecticide?

The distillers solids are loaded with mostly protein without the starches that cause so many health issues. A local winery will sell the distillers solids for $3 a hundred pounds! Mix that with some duckweed or something with micro nutrients and you have good fish feed. Its almost pre-digested so the fish can use it easy and grow fast.

That book has other really great ideas too. I will try to post some more of the ideas monday.
Author:  RupertofOZ [ Oct 6th, '07, 09:29 ]
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Can you link to the article Dandee...
Author:  DanDMan [ Oct 6th, '07, 09:39 ]
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No, Its in a book I bought. I will scan in that chapter on monday and post it. It is well worth the read.
Author:  creative1 [ Oct 6th, '07, 09:40 ]
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Mmm... nice group of pricks!
Extortion slavery enviromental terrorism and a $46b empire.
They prolly have lolly pop shops too.
Author:  timmy [ Oct 6th, '07, 10:44 ]
Post subject:  Re: Chives, a Heavy Nitrogen feeder and bio insecticide
i'm confused, are we supposed to like them for their use of bio degradable insecticide and AP, or hate them for past deeds?

And damit i knew my homebrew + AP idea was a good one.
Author:  RupertofOZ [ Oct 6th, '07, 11:27 ]
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No matter how many good ideas they might have/had have....

There's no way I'm going to offer praise to anyone or any institution that's been involved in slavery....

To do so in 2005 just shows a fundamental disrespect for humanity, respect, ethics, morals, religious beliefs, philosophy etc....

There never was any mitigating excuse... to do so with the prior knowledge of history just shows the absolute gutless contempt of those involved in the company who masquerade as "people".

While I wouldn't advocate murder or even the death penalty.... these sort of pricks should probably be wiped from the face of the earth....

As should most of the rest of the gutless company directors that relocate "off-shore" to utilise semi-legal sweatshops and exploit cheap (near) slave labour.

Gutless. moral-less, scummy little bastards I say..... all in the name of profit..... be buggered....
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