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Author:  nick [ Aug 20th, '07, 18:53 ]
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I have found these insects on my plans and am wondering what they are and how do I kill them? I know the wisdom here will identify them and give me the answer I am lookng for.
Cheers Nick

P.S sorry the plant is bok choi and this is where most of them are but they are also on my lettuce, but not on spring onions, broccoli or garlic

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Author:  Jaymie [ Aug 20th, '07, 18:56 ]
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aphids I think

Author:  veggie boy [ Aug 20th, '07, 18:57 ]
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definitely aphids nick. I'd just leave them and wait for the lady beetles to come.

Author:  nick [ Aug 20th, '07, 18:57 ]
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yeha had that thought but I do not think they are big enough, they are about 1mm or less. I think I had aphids on my tommies last summer/autumn and they were much bigger and harder shelled. They could however be baby aphids, thanks
Nick

Author:  veggie boy [ Aug 20th, '07, 19:04 ]
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aphids for sure nick - believe us. seen plenty of them in my time

Author:  nick [ Aug 20th, '07, 19:07 ]
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thank you both, so how long till the lady beetles come. It will be very cool to see.

Author:  veggie boy [ Aug 20th, '07, 19:25 ]
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if you build it they will come

nah - provided you don't use pesticides (which I know you don't), then it will happen. How long it will take is questionable. If you feel the need to get rid of them in the meantime - you can try and hose them off or spray with seasol (some people have found that to help). I'd also look at trying to control the ants a bit if there are a lot in your system. As you probably know - they transport the aphids around often.

Author:  Delgrade [ Aug 20th, '07, 19:57 ]
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i always thought it was the ants that did it shneeaky lil suckers

Author:  CHOCOLATE-CRAZY [ Aug 20th, '07, 20:04 ]
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Yes!! I agree with VB, seasol is great for killing aphids, and doesn't hurt you plants.... :D

Author:  nick [ Aug 21st, '07, 15:48 ]
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you are right VB i am far to cheap to use pesticides. Can honestly say I don't think they have been used in my backyard for a good number of years. They are mostly affecting the outer leaves and everything is starting to bolt so will most likely eat it soon.

Thanks to every one though, hopefully I will get the lady bugs soon. At te moment it is just rain. yeah
Nick

Author:  Dan the man [ Aug 21st, '07, 15:57 ]
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my suggestion would be that if there aren't to many plants get a cotton and just wipe them off that always works

Author:  steem [ Aug 21st, '07, 16:52 ]
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AFAIK, aphids are usually all female and reproduce asexually (they spit out little baby clones with needing to mate). Then every now and then they spit out a winged version (there's one right in the middle of the photo) which can then fly to another plant, mate, lay eggs and start the next colony.

When they're eating flat out, they suck so much sugar out of the plant that they expell it as a waste product. Ants feed on the waste sugar, and help the aphids by moving them to new leaves and defending them against predators.

Pretty efficient, and pretty scary if you're a gardener.

And you're right - they're not always green!

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Author:  EllKayBee [ Aug 21st, '07, 17:28 ]
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I've got them too Nick, I just use seasol to control them and wait for the lady bugs to arrive :wink:

Author:  earthbound [ Aug 21st, '07, 17:34 ]
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Has someone done a controlled test on whether the seasol actually kill aphids? In all my years of horticulture I'd never heard of it before, apart from the fact that the seasol will strengthen the plant so damage will be less.

But lately I've heard it a few times on the forum here

Author:  EllKayBee [ Aug 21st, '07, 17:46 ]
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Seems to get rid of them for a day or so, I am still trialling seasol...what it seems to have done is restrict them to the one plant type. I only have them on the spinach and none on any other adjacent vegies (silverbeet, lettuce, cabbage)

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