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Except.... you don't want to risk getting chemicals from Raid into an aquaponics system... we need to find natural or organic solutions to bug spray...
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Awwwww, you stole my thunder janet!!!!

I just read a book last night with a picture like that and i immediatly thought LEAF MINER!

If some one would have asked that question yesterday i would have been like idunno :shock:

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Read faster, Steve. And stop taking time out to sleep!
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The leafminer is exactley what I have got on the bok choy.
Caught the little bugger last night and fed him to the bream.
haven`t seen any more today but looking hard
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:x Found heaps of the little blighters today and squished the lot by hand :evil:
will try brewing up the garlic/chilli mix and test on weekend
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are they too small to get a pic of?
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I've said this before and I think there is merit in the fact that our fish can be the major source of organic pest control if we think oubout system design a bit differently? :scratch:

http://www.fao.org/newsroom/en/news/2005/102401/
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And the fish help control weeds by eating or uprooting them, and also feed on insect and snail pests. Interestingly, pesticide use on rice/fish farms is greatly reduced, if not eliminated. Although this is motivated by wanting to protect the investment in the fish, it really is a good practice both for farmers and the environment because scientific evidence shows that in nearly all cases insecticides are not needed in tropical irrigated rice.


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There's also integrating Ducks and Rice Paddies -- "The Power of Duck" by Furuno.
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I think ducks eat fish?
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Most of our rice paddies here are used as wetlands for migrating geese and ducks. But the Fish and Game are finding ducks dead from acute toxicity syndrome...go figure
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Yes, ducks eat fish, snails, lotsa weeds, and even young rice shoots. It's all a timing game. Plant the rice, let it grow, introduce ducklings after the rice has a certain number of leaves....The book was pretty interesting, and the first good application of integrated cropping that I had ever seen. However, I didn't think my backyard would make a good rice paddie, and the community by-laws wouldn't have allowed me more than 2 ducks.
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I had my grow beds set up in channels where fry would occupy the dug out center of the grow bed w/ continuous low flow and I never had pest problems after that. With an even deeper grow bed I could *theoretically* put up porous bulkheads r screens to hold gravel in a confined area with moats running around stocked with fish. It's really combining DWC with flood drain.
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