With the amount of rain we have been having, did you add any Lime to your system
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| Author: | Worms [ Feb 1st, '11, 16:49 ] |
| Post subject: | sick silvers....cloudy eye?? |
Hey people, its been along time between posts,mostly i guess because everything has been smooth sailing....up until now. Im losing perch daily symptom: cloudy eye/s no other obvious problem, no red/white dots or skin irritation. Ive tried big water changes, 3ppt salt 6ppt salt 9ppt salt this seems to help but the problem eventually comes back....40 degrees today.....lost five, some pushing 1kg I seek advice |
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| Author: | Food&Fish [ Feb 1st, '11, 17:07 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sick silvers....cloudy eye?? |
Whats your water tests |
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| Author: | Worms [ Feb 1st, '11, 17:15 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sick silvers....cloudy eye?? |
ammonia high..hence water changes, low reading on nitrite/ate |
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| Author: | mantis [ Feb 1st, '11, 17:21 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sick silvers....cloudy eye?? |
Ammonia high and water temps up, > not good I would stop all feeding and do more water changes |
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| Author: | ivansng [ Feb 1st, '11, 18:46 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sick silvers....cloudy eye?? |
What is your filtration capacity and how many 1kg fish you had? Sent from my GT-I9000 using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | chainsaw [ Feb 1st, '11, 18:50 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sick silvers....cloudy eye?? |
With the amount of rain we have been having, did you add any Lime to your system
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| Author: | Dicko [ Feb 1st, '11, 18:53 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sick silvers....cloudy eye?? |
Worms wrote: ammonia high..hence water changes, low reading on nitrite/ate Why the sudden jump in ammonia?? It hasn't even had a chance to convert to nitrite yet... Have a REALLY good look for a sunken rotting carcase. when you suck out water for a change, try vacuuming any muck off the bottom that may have bits of rotting pets in it Good luck |
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| Author: | Food&Fish [ Feb 2nd, '11, 03:29 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sick silvers....cloudy eye?? |
Whats the ph |
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| Author: | monya [ Feb 2nd, '11, 10:33 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sick silvers....cloudy eye?? |
cloudy eyes is definately a water quality issue. My guess is the ph is crashed probably below 5, hence bacteria has crashed and water quality is up the creek. Keep doing large daily water changes |
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| Author: | Worms [ Feb 2nd, '11, 13:16 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sick silvers....cloudy eye?? |
Thanks for all the help, yep, a dead and burried fish was in the tank but not the culprit for the ammonia spike i dont think becuase after it was removed the problem returned. For those who haven't seen the system it consist of a 3500ltr fish tank and 16 bath tubs for GB'S. have about 15kg of fish in it atm after reading the suggestions i feel ph could be the issue, will have to buy a testing kit. Monya, aside from water changes is ther anything else i can do to improve ph...i had a bag of oyster shell it it for awhile...does this stuff maintain its bufferring ability? Hey, wheres rupe lurking...can someone please tell him i need some more fish!!!! |
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| Author: | big worm [ Feb 2nd, '11, 14:15 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sick silvers....cloudy eye?? |
baking soda or bicarb. and a test kit will save you plenty in the long run, by keeping your system in check before it gets wacked out. |
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| Author: | Worms [ Feb 2nd, '11, 16:56 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sick silvers....cloudy eye?? |
ok, ph test kit only goes down to 6 and it was a strong 6 indicator so my guess is it may be lower, so i know its low - treatment plan is: return bag of oyster shells to system change water a necessary low feeding regime - more lettuce less pellets cross fingers There was mention of bi carb, lime and also rain, lime would bring ph up right? and how does rain effect the system? how much bi carb to add big wormy?? missus won't be pleased |
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| Author: | RupertofOZ [ Feb 2nd, '11, 19:25 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sick silvers....cloudy eye?? |
Hi Simon, skip the bicarb... grab yourself a bag of "slaked lime" - "hydrated lime".... brickies use it... (having salted high lately... there's no sense in adding more Sodium) Add a handful.... should bring your pH back into then readable scale.... pump continously overnight.... and aerate madly... But be careful not to drop the temp too much... especially if you have ammonia anywhere above 1... No feeding...until the ammonia drops.. you've crashed the bio-filtration as Monya suggests... I'll be in contact on the weekend... been a real nightmare organizing stocks over the last month... |
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| Author: | Worms [ Feb 3rd, '11, 08:48 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sick silvers....cloudy eye?? |
thanks Rupe! will do.....with the salt, sodium level would be low atm as i've done changes since then, do you think i should keep it at 3ppt. what brand do you use, is there sea salt available in bulk? |
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| Author: | RupertofOZ [ Feb 3rd, '11, 09:47 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sick silvers....cloudy eye?? |
Sunray pool salt... pure sea salt.... Bunning had it on special the other day... $6.95 for a 20kg bag... and yeah, I'd keep it at 3ppt... just let the level fall through top-ups/transpiration... Make sure you bring your pH back though.... |
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