Just how much more evidence do we need... before we finnaly realise just what we're doing to our environment... and how it'll probably kill us if we don't change our thinking...
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| Author: | RupertofOZ [ Jul 13th, '09, 10:30 ] |
| Post subject: | Just how much more evidence do we need? |
Just how much more evidence do we need... before we finnaly realise just what we're doing to our environment... and how it'll probably kill us if we don't change our thinking... http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/newshome/5720607
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| Author: | Chappo [ Jul 13th, '09, 11:22 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Just how much more evidence do we need? |
That's a NORMAL fish for QLD ,,,m should see some of the Humans:)   
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| Author: | RupertofOZ [ Jul 13th, '09, 11:34 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Just how much more evidence do we need? |
I think you're confusing Qld with Tasmania Chappo ... 
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| Author: | Chappo [ Jul 13th, '09, 12:26 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Just how much more evidence do we need? |
Just sharing the love 
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| Author: | RupertofOZ [ Jul 13th, '09, 12:27 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Just how much more evidence do we need? |
This is definitely not a case where "two heads are better than one"... |
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| Author: | KudaPucat [ Jul 13th, '09, 17:02 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Just how much more evidence do we need? |
I'm a bit concerned, and I haven't had this verified, but a local fishing shop owner was telling me how there was a push to class trout as vermin, so they could poison them. trout were already poisoned in a trial, as they were blamed for endangering a native frog. It is said the poison killed more tadpoles than frogs, and that this poisoning was more a trial of how to effectively poison trout than out of worry for the frogs. The idea of trout being vermin is to increase the native fish in the rivers. however due to the locks, many native fish find it difficult to breed. It is assumed if the trout are killed that natives wont increase in quantity nearly as much as carp will. Further to this, redfin perch, considered vermin, ie you are not allowed to stock dams, has had a bag limit of 30 fish placed on it. WTF For? Well this conspiracy theorist thought that next year the limit would be decreased, until redfin were able to propagate like mad. Then they would plague in the rivers. This would cause such public outcry that it would be necessary to poison the river. Has anybody heard of any of this? I'd love to have it validated. Of course I'm talking about the Murray Goulbourn river systems. The other thing this bloke was worried about, was that these moves were being made discretely. Not body such as fisheries, sporting fishermen, DSE has been officially pushing such moves. Personally I hope he's a lunatic, poisoning the river! It's just plain crazy! |
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| Author: | Dufflight [ Jul 13th, '09, 19:29 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Just how much more evidence do we need? |
They are funny about the river out this way. You can't remove a silver(if you can find one) and you can't put any into the river because they might endanger the ones that are hiding there. The river out this way is that full of chemical run off that I would never eat a fish out of it. If the gov put enough new fish into the system and stopped people dumping crap into it, the carp would not be on the top of the food chain to begin with.
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| Author: | Duckpond [ Aug 9th, '09, 13:53 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Just how much more evidence do we need? |
If the native fish and other native fauna are all dead, and all the native flora are all dead then there is no further need to conserve the area... ... so industry can polute it as much as they like. |
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| Author: | TCLynx [ Aug 9th, '09, 23:28 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Just how much more evidence do we need? |
Well here in the St John's river in Florida, USA we get the bearded lady fish because of paper plant waste being disposed of in the river (they have of course lobbied to be allowed to simply dump the waste in the river because it would cost to much to deal with it in more appropriate ways.) http://www.cleanwaternetwork-fl.org/content/press/pipeline1.pdf I'm not sure if anything has been done since the change of administration to change all this. |
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| Author: | BatonRouge Bill [ Aug 10th, '09, 11:21 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Just how much more evidence do we need? |
TC, if you hadn't noticed the trend, During the Clinton Admin. A lot of public logging land out west was no longer being given to the big forest companies and they started buying up land in the east. It drove up the cost of recreational acreage like hunting land etc. But also in the east were more lenient pollution laws, which weren't being updated as fast as out west. As mentioned in your link dilution is not the answer for pollution because the toxins and heavy metals build up in the sediment and could take hundreds of years to dissipate. It's funny how quickly these things become "old news". It won't be until animal deformities or people become ill before it makes news again. 
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| Author: | Lucero808 [ Aug 11th, '09, 18:20 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Just how much more evidence do we need? |
All I can say is thank goodness I found BYAP and aquaponics. I keep my sh*t to myself. No dumping needed. |
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