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Author:  Hunter [ Dec 14th, '08, 09:33 ]
Post subject:  Restricted animal material

The Hi Protein Pelets that I have been purchasing now has a label

This product contains
Restricted animal material
DO NOT FEED TO CATTLE,
SHEEP, GOATS,DEER OR
OTHER RUMINANTS.

Author:  creative1 [ Dec 14th, '08, 09:39 ]
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...and?

Author:  Dufflight [ Dec 14th, '08, 09:42 ]
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creative1 wrote:
...and?

Don't sprinkle on you breakfast cereal. :mrgreen:

Does it say anything about fish. Or is it even marketed for fish?

Author:  Hunter [ Dec 14th, '08, 09:44 ]
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It is for fish and the warning labels has just been placed on tub

Author:  creative1 [ Dec 14th, '08, 09:45 ]
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Dufflight wrote:
creative1 wrote:
...and?

Don't sprinkle on you breakfast cereal. :mrgreen:

Does it say anything about fish. Or is it even marketed for fish?


I reckon it is :wink: for fish

Author:  Dufflight [ Dec 14th, '08, 09:48 ]
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Restricted animal material. This could mean it contains protein form these animals. They don't like feeding sheep to sheep etc

Author:  Hunter [ Dec 14th, '08, 09:49 ]
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wife is concerned that the fish eat it and we eat the plants?

Author:  Nocky [ Dec 14th, '08, 09:58 ]
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Hunter, Ruminants have multiple stomachs in most cases, and this would be for digestive reasons, search ruminants on google, this is from Wiki
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Physiologically, a ruminant is a mammal of the order Artiodactyla that digests plant-based food by initially softening it within the animal's first stomach, known as the rumen, then regurgitating the semi-digested mass, now known as cud, and chewing it again. The process of again chewing the cud to further break down plant matter and stimulate digestion is called "ruminating". Ruminating mammals include cattle, goats, sheep, giraffes, American Bison, European bison, yaks, water buffalo, deer, camels, alpacas, llamas, wildebeest, antelope, pronghorn, and nilgai. Taxonomically, the suborder Ruminantia includes all those species except the camels, llamas, and alpacas, which are Tylopoda. Therefore, the term 'ruminant' is not synonymous with Ruminantia.

No mention of humans, nothing wrong with you fish food, nothing to worry about

Author:  Dufflight [ Dec 14th, '08, 09:59 ]
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Hunter wrote:
wife is concerned that the fish eat it and we eat the plants?


If its marketed for fish they just don't want people adding it to feed that will be given to one of the ingredients. Fish to poo to plants to us is very safe. Cow to cow to cow etc is a bad thing. Covers them because a lot of products are not used for there intended use. Pool salt in my town is sold more for cattle than it is for swimming pools. If there was any problem with this they would add a warning to the label. But sea salt is sweet for animals.

Author:  creative1 [ Dec 14th, '08, 10:00 ]
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Fair call!
I am only a little bit strange :twisted: :lol:
I see your point I have tried to find alternatives.

Author:  Nocky [ Dec 14th, '08, 10:03 ]
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and some more info
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Ruminants have a fore-stomach with four chambers. These are the rumen, reticulum, omasum, and abomasum. In the first two chambers, the rumen and the reticulum, the food is mixed with saliva and separates into layers of solid and liquid material. Solids clump together to form the cud (or bolus). The cud is then regurgitated, chewed slowly to completely mix it with saliva and to break down the particle size. Fiber, especially cellulose and hemi-cellulose, is primarily broken down into the three volatile fatty acids, acetic acid, propionic acid and butyric acid in these chambers by microbes (bacteria, protozoa, and fungi). Protein and non-structural carbohydrate (pectin, sugars, starches) are also fermented.
Even though the rumen and reticulum have different names they represent the same functional space as digesta can move back and forth between them. Together these chambers are called the reticulorumen. The degraded digesta, which is now in the lower liquid part of the reticulorumen, then passes into the next chamber, the omasum, where water and many of the inorganic mineral elements are absorbed into the blood stream. After this the digesta is moved to the last chamber, the abomasum. The abomasum is the direct equivalent of the monogastric stomach (for example that of the human or pig), and digesta is digested here in much the same way. Digesta is finally moved into the small intestine, where the digestion and absorption of nutrients occurs. Microbes produced in the reticulo-rumen are also digested in the small intestine. Fermentation continues in the large intestine in the same way as in the reticulorumen.

Almost all the glucose produced by the breaking down of cellulose and hemicellulose is used by microbes in the rumen, and as such ruminants usually absorb little glucose from the small intestine. Rather, ruminants' requirement for glucose (for brain function and lactation if appropriate) is made by the liver from propionate, one of the volatile fatty acids made in the rumen[

Author:  RupertofOZ [ Dec 14th, '08, 10:05 ]
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Although often not labelled... that is a standard restriction for all commercial fish feeds... :wink:

Author:  veggie boy [ Dec 14th, '08, 10:57 ]
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Chooks pellets normally have the same label - doesn't stop us eating chooks or eggs ;-)

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