Backyard Aquaponics
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No, nature wins every time...

Fine, and I will continue to serve those who want non GM products and those who don't care either way. I will go out of business willingly in he blink of an eye rather than sell GM products. I know you don't understand this and you can't comprehend this and that's fine, you don't buy fed from me anyway...


Your sarcasm is noted..



Yeah the big boys reckon there's money to be made and I have no interest in supporting them in any way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H62ScHZkTXw (warning not a pretty video)

I love people who defend the big companies like monsanto and others such. GMO's are good because...

1 they increase crop production....nope actually monsanto has said conventional farming produces more yield
2 less pesticides used... nope actually same if not more because instead of trying to just spray weeds we just spray the whole fing thing now.
3 they are safe... says who the guy selling you the product....

gmos have not only brought us to an era where i not only have to pay more for but also search in depth about the products i eat and buy because monsanto has paid my gov enough money to look the other way. Not only do they modify our plants they patent Gods work as their own so no one can use seeds that is not theirs. I am not really sure why some one would defend this company or its practices but you might want to figure out what it is you think GMOs are doing good in this world.

Studied have shown that in fact many GMO crops don't produce anything like the expected yield gains...

And the greatest threat IMO... is that the reduce... at times by deliberate court action and injunction... seed diversity... and seed banks....

Yeah that's their patten deal they are trying to own every seed that would compete with them. They are actually monopolizing the seed industry.

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"Studies have shown that in fact many GMO crops don't produce anything like the expected yield gains...

I can assure as a grower of both GM and non GM canola, the GM canola generates 15-20% more yield ... we can all find studies but the real world is a different place. You did realise that drought in the US and Russia cost the world 220 million tonnes of grain in 2012 ... that is 10 Australia wheat crops? We are running out of time to begin politicising farming now of all times in history, 7 billion humans and possibly around 2 billion commerical livestock to feed

And the greatest threat IMO... is that they reduce... at times by deliberate court action and injunction... seed diversity... and seed banks...."

You mean the diversity that already exists in everything you eat? That's clearly a comment of naivity. You know the next time you sow a crop of peas, beans, cabbage, broccoli, all plants from a given variety are genetically identical. In fact I will sow more than 1000 hectares of noodle wheat this year and I can guarantee you every single seed is genetically identical. None of the staple crops we consume (the only crops that truly count for life) can be found growing anywhere in the world without the hand of man.

I had the opertunity to talk to one of the food science guys at Purina that is on the aquaculture research also. I talked to him about duckweed as a food source. He told me duckweed is great but people use it wrong. He said for Omnivores like Tilapia have a small stomach and a long intestine. And duckweed is 90% water so what they eat is almost no nutrition before they get full. He said to dry it completely before feeding it to you fish & add it in the water slowly so they eat it almost immediately so it does not get water logged again.
Hope this helps

Researchers have found that GMO products adversley effect reproductive systems of mamals. 90% of corn raised in the USA and even more of the soy is GMO. Comercially prepared feeds are mostly corn and and soy. Since I have started feeding my chickens fermnented wheat oats and barley they have increased body weight, plumage is better, and eggs have gone from a couple a day to 12-15. Since feeding the rabbits barley fodder in lieu of pellets I get a litter every mating rather than every other time. Also litters went from 5-6 to 10. Will commercial feeds effect the tailapia reproduction? I dont know.
I keep bug light over the tanks and pond but that does not yield much protien in winter. I have started cutting some barley grass into the tailapia tank; they are starting to accept it. The tailapia like the Sketring trout food which will spoil over summer. I plan to grow duckweed for them also. Red worms are a good supplement but I need a way to trap them. I still have to feed commercial pellets because of the number of fish. Perhaps that is why I have not had any fish born.

Pretty soon there will be a day where there is no fishmeal that is affordable, there will be a large pool of annually renewable and cheap GM produced fishmeal replacement, and a bunch of confused humans who on the one hand need to eat fish but can't sustain that hunger naturally anymore.

1. Simply not true.

2. All pesticides are applied by "spraying the whole f'ing thing". GMO allows fewer tractor passes over the field thus reducing fossil fuel use. Bt GMOs eliminate the need for any insecticides, the plant produces it's own. Roundup is usually applied before the "food portion" of the plant is formed. By the time the plants produce seed they are large enough to shade out weeds and the long ago applied roundup has already degraded. Roundup never actually touches your food.

3. You may be right, the jury is still out on this one.

I can legally trap minnows here with no more than a regular fishing license, as well as crayfish. My system is still in the planning stages but I plan on using minnows. I have several minnow sources nearby and on my way to work. My thoughts are to have 2 tanks, one to keep/breed minnows and crayfish. Now my question is what to feed minnows?

They'll eat the same commercial fish food the bigger species do. (Just the smaller sizes :-)

Hey there can you explain this process?

You should never feed chickens barley! A big NO-NO!!!

If you want big eggs supplement a high protein wheat ration with canola seed. This increases the protein in the ration and leads to bigger eggs.

I agree, all barley should be reserved for beer production..........

My only explanation is the removal of GMO corn from their diet. It has been proven to effect mamal reproduction but my experience iws that it also effects reproduction in rodents(rabbits ) and birds. I shall research the claims about barley for fowl feed. In fact I use it more for rabbit fodder. Canola is also a GMO product from rape seed and often found in commercial feeds.