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"Ingredients

Organic Canola Meal, Organic Sesame Seed Meal, Organic Corn, Organic Linseed Meal, Dicalcium Phosphate, Calcium Carbonate, Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product, Organic Wheat Middlings, Organic Dried, Kelp, Reed-Sedge Peat, Choline Chloride, Ferrous Sulfate, Manganese Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Sulfur, Magnesium Oxide, Copper Sulfate, Calcium Pantothenate, Thiamine, Biotin, Sodium Selenite, Ethylenediamine Dihydriodide, Vitamin B12, Cobalt Carbonate, Organic Dried Tomato Pomace, Attapulgite Clay, Diatomaceous Earth, Monosodium Phosphate, Organic Apple Cider Vinegar, Organic Dried Whole Milk, Organic Aloe Vera Gel Concentrate, Organic Potato Starch, Organic Dehydrated Eggs, Yeast Culture, Organic Lecithin, Potassium Chloride, Niacin, Sodium Sulfate, Copper Choline Citrate Complex, Ferric Choline Citrate Complex, Zinc Sulfate, Zinc Amino Acid Complex, Manganous Oxide, Manganese Amino Acid Complex, Ascorbic Acid, Vitamin A Acetate, Vitamin D3, Natural Source of Vitamin E (d-alpha Tocopheryl acetate), Riboflavin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Carotene, Folic Acid, Cobalt Sulfate, Cobalt Choline Citrate Complex, Lactobacillus Acidophilus, Lactobacillus Casei, Bifidobacterium Thermophilum, Enterococcus Faecium, Potassium Citrate, Citric Acid, Calcium Sulfate, Magnesium Sulfate, Silicon Dioxide, Organic Sugar, Organic Sources of (Cayenne Pepper, Peppermint, Fabaceae Poaceae, Garlic, Parsley, Dandelion Root Extract, Licorice, Orange Peel Extract, Elder Flowers, Dandelion Extract, Ginger Extract, German Chamomile, Lemon Grass Extract, Thyme, Hops Extract, Sweet Fennel Extract, Sweet Basil, Sage, Cloves), Natural Antioxidants."


Surprised is doesn't say "may contain traces of nuts"

Fish are not known to be allergic to nuts.... as many fish farmers can attest...

I guess fish farmers nuts allergic to fish?

One of the "big three" in organic is that it can not be GMO.

Some people say that all canola oil/meal is GMO, and that it shouldn't be allowed in certified organic foods:
http://www.greencradle.net/2011/02/wond ... anola-oil/

Most of the plants that we eat do not exist in nature as we grow them, a genetic variation is not spliced genes. I use rather little canola, but it is not GMO. Genetically limited? Yes. It has been selectively bread so the genes that are responsible for erucic acid are down regulated. If you are saving seeds in your aquaponic system, you are selectively breeding plants that thrive in an AP environment. Again, that is not gene splicing.

I'm using the Premium organic feed for my tilapia. There are a couple of things I don't like about it, compared to their standard product: 1) It is a non-floating feed so it's hard to tell whether or not they are eating all of it within a certain time period. 2) It is a "mushy" pellet and starts breaking apart as soon as it hits the water. My FT has been a lot dirtier since I started using it.

Other sources I know of are The Aquaponics Source (who knows where they are sourcing it from), and I think there was a place in Texas that was starting to make an organic floating tilapia feed. I can't find any info on it right now and I believe I learned about it form their facebook page. A Google search turned up Hugelland Feed (nongmofeed.com) but I don't think that's it (although they list a non-GMO tilapia feed as "coming soon").

EDIT: Found it: http://www.sandcreekfarm.net/page16.php

gn8 - thanks for the info.

I just received a container of New Life Spectrum Goldfish feed today. It's not organic, and it's not certified GMO-free, but the only possible GMO ingredient in there is the soybean isolate. So far the ingredients and the analysis look good to me. This is one of the highest-rated foods among goldfish enthusiasts, but it's not formulated for AP.

What do you guys think of these ingredients? Since it's not formulated for AP, do you think it might not be adequate? (Note that I'm doing things on a very small scale: 10 goldfish max).

Ingredients: Whole Antarctic krill meal, whole herring meal, whole wheat flour, algae meal, soybean isolate, beta carotene, spirulina, garlic, vegetable and fruit extract (spinach, broccoli, red pepper, zucchini, tomato, pea, red and green cabbage, apple, apricot, mango, kiwi, papaya, peach, pear), vitamin a acetate, d-activated animal sterol (D3), vitamin B12 supplement, thiamine, DL alphatocophero (E), riboflavin supplement, folic acid, niacin, biotin, calcium pantothenate, pyridoxine hydro-chloride, l-ascorby-2-polyphosphate (stable C), ethylenediamine dihydroiodide, cobalt sulfate, copper proteinate, ferrous sulfate, manganese sulfate, choline chloride.

Analysis:
Protein: 36%
Fat: 5%
Fiber: 6%

The Premium Fish Food Ultimate Organic Pellet recipe and processing was slightly altered a couple of months ago to make it float. As far as I know it is also the least expensive USDA Certified Organic fish food offering available at this time. I've been using it as a finishing feed (last 1-2 months of growout) for two years now, and I've been extremely pleased with it.

Canlola was gene spliced by monsanto to make it herbicide resistant. Most of the canola grown is now hybridised with the gene spliced variant. WA held out for a while but wasn't going to happen.
If you live in N America chances are (by a long way) the canola you get is GM.

Well, that stinks. They get their greedy little fingers into everything don't they. The thing is, to be certified USDA organic, it can not have GMO in it. If it does, it will lose it's certification.

Nope... that's not the source for the organic feed the "aquaponics Source" sells...

This is... viewtopic.php?p=404873#p404873

Didn't say it was Rupe

There have been a few court cases on this; I would trust the USDA certification as far as I would trust a certificate of virginity in a whorehouse (we call them brothels) .

Nobody is going to push the issue and insist their seed production is non GM and insist they are all tested.( Apart from some stubborn WA farmer named Marsh) .

Going into this century we should all be roundup ready.