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Author:  doofaloofa [ Jan 1st, '16, 18:05 ]
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Hi

Looking for a place I can buy fish , preferably Carp but I am also considering Orfe, in the Republic of Ireland

It seems UK firms can't export to Ireland (not sure if that goes for N Ireland as well)

Unfortunately the National Fishery in Roscrea no longer sells carp, which is a pity, so do the Irish members have any leads?

Thanks


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Author:  BuiDoi [ Jan 1st, '16, 20:07 ]
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Carp... why carp..

Ireland ... cool... TROUT.. surely there is trout somewhere.. :-)
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Author:  doofaloofa [ Jan 1st, '16, 21:27 ]
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can trout thrive in a pond (As a total n00b excuse me if this is basic)

My pond has a highly variable level, (between maybe 100-300 m cu)

I caught several little troutlings locally and introduced them, but low water levels(low 02?) killed them off. In fairness I have improved the pond since, and levels have never reached the lows that killed them

As omnivores, would I fatten more carp per unit vol than trout?

Author:  Yavimaya [ Jan 2nd, '16, 09:12 ]
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Yes, in a dam / soft bottomed pond, carp or catfish will work much better than trout, trout grow best with decent amounts of exercise, they like to swim into a stream.

I also find that although trout are a cold water species, they certainly slow feeding during the colder parts of winter here.

Author:  doofaloofa [ Jan 3rd, '16, 00:52 ]
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Edibility wise, how are Orfe?

Author:  Yavimaya [ Jan 3rd, '16, 06:22 ]
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do eels, you guys love eels.

Author:  BuiDoi [ Jan 3rd, '16, 06:47 ]
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Yavimaya wrote:
do eels, you guys love eels.


From what I understand, eel will go walkies, and will find your dam anyway..

Are.carp (Koi) common in the area... thinking what happens if there is a flood that flushes them into other water ways..
I mention KOI, because if you can find a local Koi enthusiast, you might introduce yourself and explain that you seek fish for Aquaponics, and ask if you can buy "Cull"

They produce countless babies and then choose those with the best potential for colour..
The rest can be killed.. as food is wasted on them..

KOI, will take to poor conditions better than Trout..

But if trout is the wish... then consider if you can make.an.aerator.. eg.. a floating paddle-wheel splasher, and this could be worth building..

And a thought.. Carp/Koi.. and water temperatures .. what temperature does the pond get down to..
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Author:  doofaloofa [ Jan 3rd, '16, 09:20 ]
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BuiDoi wrote:
Are.carp (Koi) common in the area... thinking what happens if there is a flood that flushes them into other water ways..
I mention KOI, because if you can find a local Koi enthusiast, you might introduce yourself and explain that you seek fish for Aquaponics, and ask if you can buy "Cull"
.


I did get 20 or so koi from a friend, of various size and colour

Unfortunately I also became part of the territory for an otter...

We have definitely seen at least one (Fat Goldie), and so I'm hopeful that more than one have survived, but without seeing any it's hard to be sure

Author:  doofaloofa [ Jan 14th, '16, 20:42 ]
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I noticed a nearby stream had some fish in so set a bottle trap and caught...

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I'm calling it a trout, but correct me if I'm wrong

Author:  nosliwmas [ Jan 14th, '16, 21:20 ]
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doofaloofa,

Could you have salmon up that way?

How about salmon in the parr stage:

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Nope... orange on adipose fin -- brown/sea trout! I think you pegged it! See II below:

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Nice catch! :thumbright:

Got any pictures of the trap?

--
Sam

Author:  doofaloofa [ Jan 15th, '16, 04:53 ]
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I'll photo it next time I check the traps

Author:  nosliwmas [ Jan 15th, '16, 05:22 ]
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Red Herring,

So you're just using something simple like this, right?

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I'm planning on trapping tilapia with a net, and maybe using traps like this to catch me some
plant engines. The only place that sells Tilapia around here doesn't like competition and then
they only sell meat (filets).

--
Sam

Author:  doofaloofa [ Jan 15th, '16, 14:30 ]
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The same, only a big water cooler refill. The larger entrance hole allows bigger fish in

I have re-enforced with timber laths and used some lead weights to counter the buoyancy

Baited with dry dog food

I have used a 2l bottle as shown before , also to good effect

Author:  doofaloofa [ Jan 15th, '16, 22:35 ]
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Author:  doofaloofa [ Jan 18th, '16, 19:15 ]
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Got another one this morning

7"

i was thinking about putting 6 in to my pond

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