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havent made bacon from the wild pigs i get but i do roast the legs and they sre the best pork going!!

LMAO, going to have to try it tonight.

TClynx thx for the clear up that actually makes sense and I totally agree

that’s hilarious.

Tilapia Mignon! Awesome concept

The "problem" with Tilapia is it's ratio of omega-3 to omega-6 fatty acids. This is probably a problem with the feed and not the fish itself. in other animals it has been shown that you can produce favorable ratios of the fatty acids by adjusting those ratios in their diets. Today's commercially produced eggs (in the US) are one example of this, they now contain a more favorable ratio of Omega-3 to Omega-6 fatty acids, due to Omega-3 being fortified in the Chicken's commercial feed.

As for GMO feeds I wouldn't worry too much about them, the fish will filter out the allergens. Also for commercial feeds they will have gone through basically three levels of degredation before they reach the human blood stream. The first is the processing of the feed source, a lot of the oil is removed in this process, reducing the oil dissolveable allergens (which are the really dangerous ones). Secondly we have the fish's digestive system which breaks down the fats and proteins into useable forms for the fish, there is also the fish's metabolism which breaks at least a portion of this down even further into energy. Thirdly it is then broken down by our own digestive system. Also specifically the EPSPS enzyme (which is what makes round-up ready plants resistant to glyphosate) is fairly easily broken down by gastric juices. The main worry would be oil dissolveabe (ie fat soluable) allergens and chemicals, as these could be stored in the fat of the fish and accumulate. I don't know of any studies that show if the Chemicals and enzymes that GMOs produce are actually stored in the fats or cells of animals feed them. Here in the US it is pretty much impossible to not consume some GMO, something like 93% of all soybeans are GM, and probably a similar percentage of corn is as well.

Don't know if this topic is still alive, but here's something which may prove of interest : http://www.foodrenegade.com/pork-bad-for-you/

Bacon rules!

HH, some of those results are to be expected. The increased sodium in the cured or "uncured" meats will decrease (in effect at least) the calcium in the blood which would affect the clotting time of the blood. I'd love to see the study repeated by doing PT, aPTT, and Showing the INR, which are more reliable tests than a dark-field analysis. Also the study really needs to be a lot larger, and cover a large range of ethnic groups. I'm sure there are a lot of other problems with the study as well, but I'm not gonna pay for a journal I have never heard of, and one that likely has a bias.

It's the US - their pigs tend to be rather badly treated and fed. My wife wouldn't eat any kind of pork (still reluctant) until she saw how pigs are treated here.

I like how he thinks buying 'wild' fish online is a good source... Cos nobody ever indulges in shading the truth online...

I'd be very concerned abut GMO fish food; so far every GM test site has breached the test boundaries (often winding up with Monsanto suing the farmer thus contaminated) and the results used to get approval are very suspect. With protection by the FDA and US Govt over being sued for damage done to people by their products and extremely slack standards for GM, we really don't know what GM products might do to us, now or in our children.

As for fish removing the bad stuff, I'd guess it would be more they'd concentrate it as their systems have no way to remove it. We've seen the effect with other contaminants such as mercury.

I'm with you!! In addition... if you can manage R.O. filtration on your water (y'all on wells should be good... but my water source is a lake/reservoir }Lake Mead{ in which sewage is dumped [treated, yes... but you get the idea] at one end, and our water is sucked out far away) you can filter some of the more problematic. Hormones... for one. Since we're in a metropolitan area, lots of both female and male hormone treatment... and, most of it gets pee'd out into the sewage system. It doesn't break down the same way some other medications do.
Fabulous. Just F'ing fabulous.

Ok-- dilution levels, yes. But some things are virulent.
We have had cryptosporidium outbreaks. (sorry 'bout the spelling) So, I'll be doing a 'ultraviolet' treatment of my in-going water.

GMO varieties have spread to tomatoes, and some bananas. Mind you, I understand treatment of bananas for distribution of vaccines... but I do not want to have to share my tomato with other fish genes. They will not have to stay on the shelf long. I'm gonna eat 'em. I hate, hate, HATE Monsanto and Dow. And, Bayer, lately, with its treatments killing bees... we NEEDS Bees.

I'm wondering about protein foods we might create feed from... Nuts? Legumes? I know the tilapia are largely vegan... but they would need a percentage of good protein, same as us.

As a bee-keeper myself I will tell you there are a lot worse things than pesticides. Yes its use stresses the bees, but for the most the colonies can handle it. The biggest current threat to bees right now is the dwindling number of commercial bee-keepers, at least as far as honey bees anyway. The biggest threat to native bees is the honey bee. As kept and feral honey bees out compete the natives for food when foraging.

Yabbies

Roadkill... properly prepared... is probably up there along side with bacon...

Moderation and diversity. Bacon for breakfast lunch and tea 7 days a week will not make you a happy little Vegemite in the long run.

mmm. Bacon and vegemite. I reckon that might make a pretty decent sandwich to be honest.