⚠️ This forum has been restored as a read-only archive so the knowledge shared by the community over many years remains available. New registrations and posting are disabled.

All times are UTC + 8 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 3 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Oct 9th, '15, 00:18 
User avatar

Joined: Oct 7th, '15, 22:11
Posts: 9
Gender: Female
Are you human?: Yes
Location: Arad, Israel
Hi everyone!
I've been lurking for a while and it's time to get my (husband's) hands dirty.

We are from Israel, living in the middle of the desert and facing some pretty unique challenges.
My aim is to produce, eventually, all the food my family consumes at home, some with aquaponics, some in the ground.
We are taking it slow and building from there, this system, although a good size, is more of an experiment to get the hang of it and when it is stabilised we will most likely expand.

I have no previous experience with aquaponics but I come from the world of fish so I feel pretty confident about that aspect, we also have a struggling veggie garden so plants are not a problem either.

My challenges as I see them are:
1. Weather extremes; I live on a mountain 700m over sea level in the middle of the desert.
Temps get as high as 43c during the day and 30 at night.
In the winter we get down to 9 during the day and 4 at night.
We had snow for last two years but that is an anomaly, happens once and only lasts a night, it covers maybe 2cm.

2. Critters: we have rock hyraxes and porcupines regularly invading the garden (which is why it is struggling). The rock hyraxes are notorious climbers and can rarely be kept out. They destroy pretty much everything.
What they don't eat the porcupines do. Two nights ago my husband left for work in the middle of the night and found one munching on our fruit trees and discovered it literally ate oir pallet gate up.

The good news is, my husband just started working in a recycling centre for ibcs and barrels so materials are free!

So, we are in the planning phase of a chift pist system and I would love to hear your input.

Image

What I drafted is a two ibc system. Both will be cut 700/300l.
The two smaller parts will be the GBs, one 700l will act as a FT and one as a sump.
We are renting and thus have no intention of burying, but we do have the perfect spot: it has a ledge about 70cm off the ground so the sump will be on the bottom part (where is also our veggie garden so if I need to drain it goes straight to the plants), the FT directly above it on the ledge and next to it the GBs.
The ledge is 2m across so there will be enough space to go around for harvest and maintenance.

I really only have one conundrum... Continuous flow or flood and drain?

From what I've seen, most people go with f&d. As far as I can see, it requires a larger pump, playing around with siphons and I have read of people whose timers failed and the fish died... (another weak link in the system).
On the other hand, cont flow should be cheaper on the pump, simpler to drain and almost fool proof, plus it aerates the water better, a desired aspect.

I intend to connect both GBs through the drainage (although I haven't figured out yet how to go about that.

So, I would love to hear your opinions, preferences, criticism and ideas!


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
    Advertisement
 
PostPosted: Oct 9th, '15, 14:10 
User avatar

Joined: Oct 7th, '15, 22:11
Posts: 9
Gender: Female
Are you human?: Yes
Location: Arad, Israel
Huh, I see my tapatalk posted double... Any admin care to delete this thread?

Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Oct 9th, '15, 20:30 
In need of a life
In need of a life

Joined: Apr 7th, '13, 20:30
Posts: 1664
Gender: Male
Are you human?: Yup
Location: Perth hills.
Hiya Living Waters, welcome to the forum.
They certainly are extremes n temperature!
There are a couple of others from Israel so hopefully they will have some answers for you. Perhaps a green house might be the way to go.
I can tell you though, that if you have access to cheap ibcs you will be expanding so plan for that...
:)


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 3 posts ] 

All times are UTC + 8 hours


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron

Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
Portal by phpBB3 Portal © phpBB Türkiye
[ Time : 0.064s | 15 Queries | GZIP : Off ]