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why would you use GMO crap when you can just grow non GMO algae?

I'm not positive, but I don't think algae contains Omega-3 oils.

http://www.eufic.org/page/en/show/lates ... t-disease/

I guess they're working on that angle also. Not sure which is more economically feasible, but both seem a better option then removing all the fish from the sea for fish meal.

Ha ha, I see your still looking around for something pro-GMO, Chris. Well, once again, you need to dig deeper to find the truth.

Lets break the article down a little further..


Rothamstead is directly funded by the Biotechnology and Biological Sciences Research Council (BBSRC) who are all about genetically modified organisms that represents the interests of Monsanto, Bayer, DuPont, Syngenta and other biotech giants.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/artic ... earch.aspx

And we can look at other UK based scientific researchers and governing bodies backing GM farming and pathing the way for the big biotech companies.

Firstly, the UK farming union. In bed with GMcorp and according to Corporate Watch, prominent NFU members have in the past accepted paid trips to the United States as guests of Monsanto. http://www.redpepper.org.uk/UK-farming- ... -bed-with/

Then theres the Royal Society of Edinburgh. Many of its lead scientists who went up against GM crops have been physically assaulted, resulting in their permanent paralysation, for speaking out against the biotech industry's deliberate use of flawed, poorly-conducted studies to get their products approved for human consumption. It wouldn't surprise me if they are now either too scared to speak up or being pressured into support GMO.

Or the Roselin Institute and the UK science media working together to fabricate pro-GMO articles. Probably like the one you have posted.
http://sustainablepulse.com/2013/05/02/ ... dO3IYuChFs

The ones that gave the scientific testing go ahead were the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs. (Defra) http://www.theguardian.com/environment/ ... s-go-ahead
Who also are in bed with GM crop companies Monsanto, Syngenta, BASF, Bayer CropScience, Dow AgroSciences and Pioneer Hi-Bred.
http://www.genewatch.org/article.shtml? ... %5D=574455

They are all connected. Once again, profit, profit, profit. Control the products, control the seeds, control the farms, control the food, control the world.

Wake up buddy.

Oh dear. Science fail Chris.

All the omega 3 and 6 oils in animals come from plants and the vast majority of those plants for fish are algae.

2 side to every story I guess. I've read some of the first link's authors opinions. The website says everything on the sire is is opinion. I think he's a quack.

https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/9- ... ural-news/

Couldn't find out much about any assaulted scientists, but did find the 10 year study from the Royal Society of Edinburgh.

https://www.royalsoced.org.uk/344_Submi ... Crops.html

I don't know anything about the UK Science Media Centre. I'll do a bit more research.

GeneWatch and Dr. Wallace have some interesting articles. Thanks for the link.

Perhaps we should add this under "conspiracy theories" also. It sounds like a global domination plan to me.

Stu- I knew that marine algae contained omegas, but didn't know they were raising marine algae. I've seen some research on growing freshwater algae for bio-diesel. Sorry, for the "science fail".

lol stu no need to make chris feel bad, but what i would like to pose to him is: Why are GMOs NEEDED? what about GMO stuff makes it essential for them to be made? will the world be just fine without them?

More to the point, are we going to bugger the world by their introduction.. WE DO NOT NEED THEM.... And we can't run the risk of destroying our food crops by their introduction, if it's not already too late.

How did you go with looking further into the debacle of the GM papaya in Hawaii?

Sorry Chris was a bit harsh.

The real point is that they don't work.

I've been talking with a wheat geneticist about another project lately and she was going through some results on the response of a range of wheat pest species and their response to increased use of various chemicals used in conjunction with GMO varieties of wheat.

They were seeing resistance levels to those chemicals increasing such that in one case in ONE year the pest was able to survive and attack the crop at the same rate that it had before the increased spraying regime.

5 years of genetic research, 3 years of development, 2 years of trials rendered worthless in one production season.

This is going to turn into another thread exactly like the last.

But I do agree that we need something for aquaculture feed, the drenching for fish meal isn't sustainable and already running out, and demand for AQ feed is still increasing. Get them to make a fish plant I say. I think the CSIRO came up with something a while ago to make prawn feed edible from land based plants.

On the other end of the spectrum, what's the thoughts on something like a GMO algae/plant that produces double the amount of oils needed for bio diesel? Produced by an ethical company, and grown in a greenhouse in the middle of a desert where it can't escape?

Not a fan of GMO in the first place, there is always another solution..... like get rid of people.

but if it was something that definitely needed to be in water at all times to survive and was grown in a place with no water and treated like a biohazard, then i couldnt see a problem with it, but any smart person can tell that it would only take so long before greedy arseholes argue they should be allowed to put it into all water supplies because it would end up cheaper for them, at which point there would be a politician that has shares in it / an interest that would get it pushed through.

A bit off topic but I just watched a repeat of Catalyst on the ABC which ran a bit about a bloke who's trying to grow HFL and what looked like BSFL from waste, commercially for livestock feeds.
Don't recall the name though unfortunately.

edit : Found a link to it.
http://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/3775080.htm