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 Post subject: "Portable" set up
PostPosted: Mar 24th, '16, 01:56 

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I'm looking to build a compact patio set up, with the goal of moving to a more permanent indoor location and expanding in the next 12 to 18 months.

Proposed hardware:
1 50 gal/ 90 liter fish "pond" (I have this)
2 48" tall by 4" media-filled grow towers (built from PVC, est. volume 5 gal/ 19 L each)
1 cubic foot ebb and flow bed with bell siphon (7 gal/ 28 L)
1 6" to 8" square DWC raft (scrap styrofoam, mostly to improve fish habitat)
1 agromax250 pump and lots of plastic irrigation tubing (I have this)
No sump or additional filtration

Biological and other inputs:
Not more than 2.5 lbs/1.2 kilo "feeder" goldfish total
Fish feed will be duckweed, mosquito larvae, and fish flakes
Towers should hold 16 plants each, DWC 1 or 2, all salad greens and herbs
Plants will get additional compost tea foliar feed 1-2 times a week.
I add city water, allowed to stand for 12 to 24 hours to off-gas.
I will use a combination of gravel and scavenged styrofoam peanuts for media

Configuration:
The single pump will power the system. Beds will be plumbed in parallel to maximize flow-through rate, and will drain directly back to the pond. Water in excess of what the beds need will cascade directly back to the pond to help with aeration.

Stats:
I need to add 2-3 gallons of water weekly to my present 40 gallon bottom-watering system, so I'm expecting a roughly 5% weekly water change here, too.
Rough ratio is 1 lb fish: 20 gal H2O: 6.8 gal grow bed

Questions:
I have two 5" long gold fish. I have ready access to 2" long fish. How many more do I add to reach my desired stocking rate this season?
Are my calculations correct?
Given styrofoam media, how much water should I anticipate running through the towers per hour? How much through a gravel-filled EFB? Will these actually provide enough surface area and flow-through rate for adequate biological/mechanical filtration?
Are the ratios feasible? Because the system is small and I have little experience, I want a large margin of error to protect the fish. I'm worried that these ratios won't support plant growth, even with foliar feeding.


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 Post subject: Re: "Portable" set up
PostPosted: Mar 31st, '16, 06:54 
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..50Gallon.. is that not more like 200L

Bottom line, there are techniques by which you can have LOTS of fish and LITTLE grow media.. BIOCENOSIS
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 Post subject: Re: "Portable" set up
PostPosted: Apr 4th, '16, 08:44 

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I'm more interested in doing amoderate amount of plants and little fish. Winter plant loss is expected, but the fish at this point are pets, not food. I find that with my little above-ground pool I need to move the fish to smaller indoor containers 3 to 4 months out of the year. I'll double check my conversion numbers; thanks for catching that.


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