⚠️ This forum has been restored as a read-only archive so the knowledge shared by the community over many years remains available. New registrations and posting are disabled.

All times are UTC + 8 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 977 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53 ... 66  Next
Author Message
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Jun 11th, '07, 22:20 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: May 27th, '06, 04:57
Posts: 6480
Images: 0
Gender: Male
Are you human?: I'm a pleasure droid
Location: Frederick, Maryland
Real men use siphons.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
    Advertisement
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Jun 11th, '07, 22:29 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Jun 14th, '06, 19:03
Posts: 5413
Location: Cairns Queensland
Gender: Male
Are you human?: yes
Location: Cairns, Queensland
so true - let nature suck it dry for you ... :mrgreen:


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Jun 12th, '07, 03:56 
Legend Member
Legend Member

Joined: Sep 20th, '06, 13:57
Posts: 500
Location: Queensland
Gender: Male
veggie boy wrote:
One day I will have to list the reasons why I will be going siphons in my big system. I think they outweigh the disadvantage - of which there are a few.


VB for the sake of a learning before I finish my system, Please list your reasons for autosiphons.

AP


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Jun 12th, '07, 07:33 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Jun 14th, '06, 19:03
Posts: 5413
Location: Cairns Queensland
Gender: Male
Are you human?: yes
Location: Cairns, Queensland
Aussie - I think the biggest reason is: 'because he can' ;)
Seriously, for me its a case of pump on... and no moving parts - it also allows for a small pump to fill a large bed which will effectively drain itself :)... the only drawback being that small pumps do not suck up as much muck :(


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Jun 12th, '07, 11:53 
Site Admin
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Mar 12th, '06, 07:56
Posts: 17803
Images: 4
Location: Perth
Gender: Male
Blog: View Blog (1)
For me the proof is in the pudding.. I had the auto siphon on my barrelponics system for maybe a couple of years. In that time, once I got it all going, I think I have had 3-4 times when things have stopped working and I've had to stuff with it..

My big system with the standpipes and intermittant pumping has been running for over 3 years without any issues in the piping/irrigation/drainage side of things. So it works and it's very reliable.. I spend a lot of time talking with people that don;t have many skills when it comes to sorting out problems and they just want simple things that will work without any problems, so for me, the best suggestion I can give to most of these people is standpipes.. Siphons certainly have a place in things, and I'd like to experiment further with them myself, but at the moment they are generally untested in large systems...


Top
 Profile Personal album  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Jun 12th, '07, 12:06 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Mar 18th, '06, 09:41
Posts: 9072
Location: Brisbane
Gender: Male
Are you human?: YES
Location: Brisbane
I agree with you EB that siphons are probably not the way to go for people who are not willing to play with them till they get them right and that your standpipe system is by far the most reliable.

I think that a little bit more work is needed to identify the best design for the bell siphon in aquaponics and to identify the parametes within which they must be operated (dependant upon their size, the setup of the pipe going to the sump etc etc.)

I will persist with them in the interests of those that come after me :lol: and I'm sure in time I will ensure my siphons are foolproof and can be replicated in any system.

I don't want people to go with an autsiphon and then spend the rest of their life cursing me for it.

I will however list the pros for an autosiphon again a bit later. I'm kinda dreading the thought that you might go with the autosiphons AP - in case they don't work out for you. My name will be mud then. Go the standpipe :lol:


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Jun 12th, '07, 14:46 
Legend Member
Legend Member

Joined: Sep 20th, '06, 13:57
Posts: 500
Location: Queensland
Gender: Male
VB EB. I think standpipes for my first system will be better for me. I do like things simple. thanks

AP


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Jun 12th, '07, 14:55 
Seriously, this cant be healthy.
Seriously, this cant be healthy.
User avatar

Joined: Aug 24th, '06, 19:46
Posts: 6604
Location: sunbury
Gender: Male
Are you human?: no
Location: sunbury
I have been running stand pipes ever since i started 9 months i think have never had a problem fish tanks allways clean and seeing pump runs 3 min in the hr costs about $30.00 a year to run


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Jul 1st, '07, 12:58 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Mar 18th, '06, 09:41
Posts: 9072
Location: Brisbane
Gender: Male
Are you human?: YES
Location: Brisbane
Time for an update - haven't done one in ages:

Everything is chugging along. Plants are growing well. The tomatoes are starting to ripen. I have included a picture below of today's harvest. They will finish ripening over the next few days in the fruit bowl. Chillies are also ripening.

Eggplant has several fruit on it as does my single bean plant. I have included a picture of the beans and eggplant. You will have to look closely to spot the biggest eggplant fruit. Trellis makes shot a bit crap.

I guess the most exciting thing is that last weekend I started harvested my first fish. I removed 4 Jade Perch from the system. 3 of these went into a purging tank that I set up and the other was eaten that night. As it turned out, the fish did not need purging because I had not fed the fish for nearly a week because of low temperatures.

The fish that I ate weighed 550 grams when gilled and gutted. At least 1 of the 3 that are in the purging tank is a substantially bigger fish. I prepared the fish simply by adding some coriander, parsley and a small slice of lime, wrapping in alfoil and cooking under the grill. The taste was lovely and the meal was very filling because there is heaps of flesh on the fish.

The other vaguely interesting thing to report is that a few days ago I put a 200 watt heater into my tank. A run of cold days and nights meant that the water was just getting too cold. The 200 watt heater (which in the scheme of things is not that big) has done a good job of heating the tank. Temperature at mid day today was 21 degrees Celsius after having been 17 this morning (sun and heater will have contributed to that rise). This is much better than the 12 degree temps I had before adding the heater. The fish are again feeding and will do throughout winter if I keep the heater in.

The 3 fish in the purging tank have been there a week now and are not long for this world.

Enjoy the pics - I will have to do them over a couple of posts.


Attachments:
File comment: Still plenty of growth in grow-bed.
DSCF4089 (Medium).JPG
DSCF4089 (Medium).JPG [ 158.7 KiB | Viewed 9290 times ]
File comment: Tomatoes picked today - will finish ripening in fruit bowl.
DSCF4087 (Medium).JPG
DSCF4087 (Medium).JPG [ 90.88 KiB | Viewed 9290 times ]
File comment: Beans and eggplant
DSCF4097 (Medium).JPG
DSCF4097 (Medium).JPG [ 156.69 KiB | Viewed 9282 times ]
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Jul 1st, '07, 13:00 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Mar 18th, '06, 09:41
Posts: 9072
Location: Brisbane
Gender: Male
Are you human?: YES
Location: Brisbane
More


Attachments:
File comment: Another batch of lettuce ready for harvest.
DSCF4092 (Medium).JPG
DSCF4092 (Medium).JPG [ 109.07 KiB | Viewed 9284 times ]
File comment: Purge tank.
DSCF4074 (Medium).JPG
DSCF4074 (Medium).JPG [ 70.1 KiB | Viewed 9285 times ]
File comment: Fish in purge tank.
DSCF4077 (Medium).JPG
DSCF4077 (Medium).JPG [ 53.28 KiB | Viewed 9277 times ]
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Jul 1st, '07, 13:03 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Mar 18th, '06, 09:41
Posts: 9072
Location: Brisbane
Gender: Male
Are you human?: YES
Location: Brisbane
More


Attachments:
File comment: Jade Perch, gilled and gutted - weighing in at 550 grams.
DSCF4064 (Medium).JPG
DSCF4064 (Medium).JPG [ 80.31 KiB | Viewed 9273 times ]
File comment: Jade with herbs and lime ready to be wrapped and banged in oven.
DSCF4068 (Medium).JPG
DSCF4068 (Medium).JPG [ 102.69 KiB | Viewed 9272 times ]
File comment: Cooked Jade. Not good presentation on my behalf - but very tasty.
DSCF4072 (Medium).JPG
DSCF4072 (Medium).JPG [ 77.54 KiB | Viewed 9268 times ]
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Jul 1st, '07, 13:52 
Valued Contributor
Valued Contributor
User avatar

Joined: Oct 2nd, '06, 12:58
Posts: 92
Location: Portland
Gender: Male
Congratulations on your first fish harvest VB. Plants look great too.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Jul 1st, '07, 13:59 
Legend Member
Legend Member

Joined: Sep 20th, '06, 13:57
Posts: 500
Location: Queensland
Gender: Male
that fish sure did look good

AP


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Jul 1st, '07, 14:58 
Xtreme Contributor
Xtreme Contributor
User avatar

Joined: Jul 30th, '06, 13:40
Posts: 161
Location: brisbane
Gender: Male
hey vb whats the verdict on silvers vs jades can you put other things in with the jades?


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Jul 1st, '07, 15:56 
Seriously, this cant be healthy.
Seriously, this cant be healthy.
User avatar

Joined: Aug 21st, '06, 16:07
Posts: 5323
Location: Brisbane
Gender: Male
Nice to see your fish purging techniques doesn't require the fish to swim upside down :sorryMon: :twisted:


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 977 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53 ... 66  Next

All times are UTC + 8 hours


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron

Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
Portal by phpBB3 Portal © phpBB Türkiye
[ Time : 0.096s | 15 Queries | GZIP : Off ]