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PostPosted: Feb 28th, '13, 15:10 
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Want your own fish farm?

How about this one.. http://www.ausyfish.com/hatchery-fish-f ... -sale.html





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PostPosted: Feb 28th, '13, 15:12 
Ausyfish has been on the market for years...

They actually went quite... and took down their website for ages.... but have just recently revamped and put online a new one... perhaps they've got new management...


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PostPosted: Feb 28th, '13, 15:34 
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Id buy it but Im saving up to buy australia. :lol:


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When you buy it Charlie you should then use all your profits to fly me over for fishing trips... :)


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He can fly me over to Geraldton to relax, your a good one charlie.


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It say on the website that they are one 3 "Fish health certification program" hatcheries in Australia, what about all the other? illegal fish health bandit?
I had to study and pass a test on aquaculture biosecurity program to get my Aquaculture Business Production license!


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immagine how mauch waste goes in to the environment from a production facility this big!
We should have a found raise and buy the place to chancge the game, transform this place in an imazing Aquaponic village oasis...


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PostPosted: Feb 28th, '13, 18:45 
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Sorry do not understand your bitterness. This establishment has provided healthy fingerling for years to those like my self who required good fingerlings. WHAT is your beef?


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PostPosted: Feb 28th, '13, 18:51 
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Buy it Charlie, and give me a job. I need a change :D


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CCbear....I'm not having beef, I'm rearing trout!
No bitterness here, just underlining what they have said about been one of the only 3 to have a health certification,I suppose that means they probably stock helty fish, but for that does not involve healty stream of wastewater, by law they have parameters to meet, and as far as I'm aware those parameter are normally a compromise of how much the eco system can cope with.
And most fish farm in the world have only been adding pollution to the enviroment, just like any other type of farming.

Well...... anyway...it's on your doorstep.


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immagine how mauch waste goes in to the environment from a production facility this big!

By law in Australia... any water drained from aquaculture ponds... has to be sent to remedial settling ponds.... often incorporating reed bed filtrations...

The remedial ponds also serve as emergency backup water for the facilities....

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And most fish farm in the world have only been adding pollution to the enviroment, just like any other type of farming.


The suggestion that pond based aquaculture... discharges large amount of effluent rich water into the environment... might be valid in some third world countries.... but not (generally) in Australia....

Maybe it's different in England.... :wink:

Perhaps you've been listening to too many US aquaponics "guru" podcasts.... :wink:


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PostPosted: Feb 28th, '13, 19:25 
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It say on the website that they are one 3 "Fish health certification program" hatcheries in Australia, what about all the other? illegal fish health bandit?
I had to study and pass a test on aquaculture biosecurity program to get my Aquaculture Business Production license!

The "Fish Health Certification Program".. was set in place to garauntee that any fingerling exports.. both inter-state within Australia... and particularly overseas... (Ausyfish is a major exporter of Jade Perch fingerlings to Asia).. were/are disease free....

Not all hatcheries send fish outside of the state in which they are based.... and very few export overseas...

What sort of hatchery certification programs are in place in England.. and if you intend to breed... and/or supply fingerling stocks... have, or will you undertake them... or just be another fly under the radar bandit???

A biosecurity certification... to obtain an aquaculutre production licence.. isn't even in the same ballpark...


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I've suggested that any type of intense farming add a level of pollution to the environment that otherwise without us(human) won't be there, so we are defenetly having an impact on anything we possibly do.
Never use wording like.....discharges large amount of effluent rich water into the environment.
I don't personally like to be re-worded, unless you are dyslexic.

Biosecurity licence it's the minimum requirement for any aquaculture businnes to stock and harvest fish and have a general understanding of cross contamination, fish healh and disease.
The same fish hatcheries certification program are in place here and for sale of fish internationally under european law they must undergone a comprehensive laboratory sampling, carry the batch ID in place for all the disease tested for as well as batch production, etc....plus the result are public, I can actually see any notifiable diseas from the hatchery I'm buying from, what has been tested for and if it had a positive or negative result!
In UK every movement of Ova/fingerling or fish have to be recorded in a Fish movement book, even if BYAPs want to stock fish it need to apply for an e-consent(DEFRA) "article 30" and fill in a FR2 prior stoking.

The hatchery where I buy my fingerling from does have a program as they are strictly regulated over here, and as I'm a registered APB we will adere to the same program and comply with the same requirements.
We have a yearly farm inspection as well as providing quota /data for production,daily inspection, water parameter,mortality etc......

How many of you BYAP user are monitored/registered or controlled by law in Australia?

haa.....it's just a hobby and the bandit can get away with it!
I wonder sometimes with such a big comunity of BYAP what would the accounts of fish mortalities.

I can reassure you that if in UK anybody does stock fish and does not apply for a licence I'll be the first to report it at CRIMESTOPPERS, a police department that deal with all the legality even animal registration.

PS; Luckly the ban on trout in hot climate region had capped the trout death in BYAP over there!

Animal walfare isn't just an option and so enviromental responsabilities.


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Apparently Aquotix has been selling Jades in Perth this summer!!!!

is this one of then bandit?


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PostPosted: Feb 28th, '13, 21:04 
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Never use wording like.....discharges large amount of effluent rich water into the environment.
I don't personally like to be re-worded, unless you are dyslexic.

The reference was meant to a more generalised attitude often promoted within aquaponics... that aquaculutre was a bi polluting industry... that "discharges large amount of effluent rich water into the environment."

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How many of you BYAP user are monitored/registered or controlled by law in Australia?

haa.....it's just a hobby and the bandit can get away with it!

They're not... 99.99% of BYAP users are not operating a hatchery... operating as a business... or selling fish... especially out of state...

If you look at the WA Trout thread.... you'll find in fact see.. that due to regulatory requirements... most BYAP members that brought trout from a reputable dealer (Troutman)... submitted the require documentation to fisheries...

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Apparently Aquotix has been selling Jades in Perth this summer!!!!

is this one of then bandit?

There are other suppliers that don't necessarily abide by the letter of the law....or twist the intent of the law.... and supply fish regardless...

And the above is a case in point.... they are an aquarium business... not an licenced aquacultural businesses...

And stock.. and sell... on the basis that the fish is for aquaria purposes...

Even so... they should not have been allowed to import Jade Perch into WA... without the required translocation permits.. and/or health certifications.....

And on selling them is IMO... both reprehensible and irresponsible... and I have qualms as to those that migh have bought them... knowing that they were "side stepping" the law...

Personally... I think Aquotix... should be reported to fisheries...

Again... read up on the forum regarding Troutmans ( a licenced aquaculturalists) ongoing attempts to legally import Jade Perch into WA...


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