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Author:  slane [ Dec 15th, '07, 11:41 ]
Post subject:  solar pump??
Hi,

I'm thinking about setting up a little aquaponics system with
500l tank and 400l of grow bed for 20 fish to 500g grown.

first of all have I got the maths right? I can support that many fish
with that sized system?

secondly, we don't have power where I want to site it, so can I use a solar pump, say 400l/hour?
Obviously that will stop at night. Will that be the end of the fish when it stops?

thanks
Samantha
Author:  Outbackozzie [ Dec 15th, '07, 11:48 ]
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the fish will need more air overnight especially once bigger - not running a pump overnight can cause high ammonia levels also. I am not sure about the sizing.
Author:  creative1 [ Dec 15th, '07, 12:06 ]
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slane-- there has been a fair bit of convo about solar pumps.
sun shining no probs, no sun you may as well put the grill on!LOL
There is more info on the ratio of Grow bed : tank found on the sticky's.
Best you do some more reading then you will have an understanding of the parametres best suited to your situation.
Otherwise there would be a lot of question answering going on...
Take your time and notice the "P" word being used a lot (patients)
Also welcome to the forum.
C1
Author:  TimC [ Dec 15th, '07, 13:33 ]
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Welcome to the forum Slane....

A bit of advice-

For the general water pumping...I wouldn't trust those solar pumps as far as I can throw them...

I would only use them as extra aeration to the pond.
Author:  EllKayBee [ Dec 15th, '07, 14:45 ]
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Hi Sam and welcome to our world of insanity :lol:

I have no experience with solar pumps so unable to help on that, but there is 2 other options:
1) select a site close to power; or
2) run power to site (not sure if either is an option for you)

The general guide line is 2:1 for fish tank to GB (Gb volume being twice the size)...and 6Kg to 100l of fish water (for experienced personnel)

Using these ratios - your fish tank will support 30kg of fish, but the GB will only support 12kg of fish (use the smaller)

If you are new to AP then it is best to start at half this and build up with experience...this means that you would be pushing the limits with 50 fish when they started to grow.

Other factors also need to be taken into account, like water quality, whether the system is in full sun (gravel gets very hot) and so it goes on :wink:

Some advice would be to read a lot of the threads on the forum to gain knowledge (as C1 stated)...start up a thread under members systems and describe what you are trying to do (with pics) and ppl will be more able to help on you overall design
Author:  KudaPucat [ Dec 15th, '07, 20:39 ]
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EllKayBee wrote:
1) select a site close to power; or
2) run power to site (not sure if either is an option for you)

If the property doesn't have power, he's in trouble... As I recall it costs 10's of thousands per pole they have to put up to give you power - this sux.
Of course a dodgy lead in conduit run down from the house that nobody knows about will solve his problem.
The only other way I'd trust, is a solar array backed up by a wind or water generator and a big battery store. Then run conventional pumps, but we're talking big money here also :-(
Nothing's free - even AP.
You can get water powered pumps... this can be easier than running power. They are a hydraulic piston pump.
Author:  steve [ Dec 15th, '07, 21:00 ]
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if you're goingt o go solar then use a "propper" setup and buy an expensive DC pond pump.

basically dont bet your system on a shitty bunnings solar pump
Author:  bundaberg kid [ Dec 15th, '07, 21:08 ]
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KudaPucat wrote:
EllKayBee wrote:
1) select a site close to power; or
2) run power to site (not sure if either is an option for you)

If the property doesn't have power, he's in trouble... As I recall it costs 10's of thousands per pole they have to put up to give you power - this sux.
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who runs poles these days?????????????????????????????/ is mostly underground lol
Author:  creative1 [ Dec 15th, '07, 21:10 ]
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was thinking the same BK
Author:  bundaberg kid [ Dec 15th, '07, 21:12 ]
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he mustta been talking about the power poles on sim city
Author:  KudaPucat [ Dec 16th, '07, 04:46 ]
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I was speaking of the country, where poles are still prevalent. And worse, poles with only an active on them, no neutral or 3 phase.
In fact, the farm my Dad bought was owned by a Pole :-)

boom tish
Author:  Sleepe [ Dec 16th, '07, 05:39 ]
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What's underground power?
Is that something like deep sewage and other urban myths :) .
Author:  slane [ Dec 16th, '07, 05:52 ]
Post subject:  Re: solar pump??
Thanks all.

Not solar then. And not full sun, which rules out the spot I'd chosen. :(

Back to the drawing board. :)

Thanks again.

Samantha
Author:  Jaymie [ Dec 16th, '07, 06:22 ]
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Samantha, can you show us some pictures of your area? Full sun isn't always necessary, especially in the heat of summer.
Author:  Tony From West Oz [ Dec 16th, '07, 08:29 ]
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Sam,
It is possible to install the solar panels away from the battery and pump (they are better located in close proximity). You may need to increase the wire size to reduce losses, but it is doable.

If your system is sized to provide 5 days supply (to half battery capacity - ensuring long battery life) and has capacity to recharge in one day (properly regulated to prevent battery overcharging), you should have a reliable system. In the case of more than 5 days of no sun, you could carry a small generator, second car battery etc. to the tank and recharge / replace the battery.
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