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PostPosted: Dec 2nd, '09, 05:51 
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I have a small aquaponics setup that I have 3 half barrel growbeds that I am using an internal U bend siphon. It has been filling and draining fine for the past couple months. This week I've noticed that my siphons haven't been working consistantly. I diconnected the external drain pipe and I found it half filled with roots. I pulled 3-4 feet of roots out of the pipe and as much as I could going back into the U bend. I have perf pipe surrounding my siphon end. I looked around the sides and there are some roots coming through the perf pipe, but not the amount or size that would account for 4 feet of health roots. It must be coming from the bottom and entering the siphon end and traveling the entire U bend and out the external drain pipes.
How can I stop this? Besides the point that its clogging and slowing down the siphon, I'm pretty impressed with the size and healthy appearance of these roots. I would have to guess it is tomato, cucumber and pole bean roots as my third bed is all lettuce and bok choi and didn't have 4' roots and a clogged siphon.
Any help? Or is this an inherant problem with internal siphons? Would I be better off going to a timed ebb and flow with a stand pipe that I can remove to clean? or even just twist the pipes to cut off any roots going through the drain hole?

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PostPosted: Dec 2nd, '09, 06:29 
Seriously, this cant be healthy.
Seriously, this cant be healthy.
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Twist the perf pipe :)


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If you can't keep the line clear, you're going to have to cut it and put in a clean out, with a water tight plug, somewhere so you can regularly run a small manual snake through to catch and tear out the roots. It will have to become part of your general maintenance and done on a consistent basis.


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PostPosted: Dec 2nd, '09, 07:18 
Seriously, this cant be healthy.
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If you can arrange things so that you can take apart the top of the U bend siphon and pull the roots out whenever things start to slow up or whenever you think about it, that should work. I almost never glue plumbing if it is not under pressure and not in danger of being knocked out where it could cause a HSM.


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I can't twist the perf pipe as I cut a hole and ran the pvc pipe through it. I did use a pipe hair cleaner that's how I got the biggest 4' root system out, but I'm sure the bottom of the syphon is still full. I guess I have to use a bigger perf pipe so it will give me room to disconnect the U and slide out the bottom to clean. Maybe I'll experiment with an simple stand pipe since I have to take one apart anyways.
Simple foolproof is what I want, its just that sucking siphon sound and the return water going from a little trickle to a rushing waterfall is so cool

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PostPosted: Dec 2nd, '09, 08:02 
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If your pump can fill all the beds in under 15 minutes, then I'd say go for the standpipe/timer method as far as being pretty easy (but you do need to make sure you have extra aeration going if you do that method.)


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