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| Author: | David [ Sep 18th, '06, 08:43 ] |
| Post subject: | Pine Chips as a grow media |
Has any one else tryed pine chips? I have found them cheap, light and well draining, but they pink up the water and the fish dont like it. I have moved the fish and im washing the pine, has any one else tryed them? |
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| Author: | EllKayBee [ Sep 18th, '06, 09:25 ] |
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wouldn't pine chips eventually decompose and need replacing or swell and restrict water flow? |
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| Author: | David [ Sep 18th, '06, 09:36 ] |
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possibly, but im more concerned with the health issues connected with growing food in them. The fish survived and I placed them in another tank, but ive been flushing for 3 days and the water is still pink. |
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| Author: | EllKayBee [ Sep 18th, '06, 09:41 ] |
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I thought I wpould be smart and used a red striped towel to filter the water when I first did the gravel - result pink water. A few water changes will get rid of that but the heart rate accelerated for a time there |
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| Author: | David [ Sep 18th, '06, 09:43 ] |
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Yeah but did your fish all turn onto their backs? |
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| Author: | David [ Sep 18th, '06, 09:47 ] |
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Ive only found one web site that suggests a few fish types dont like cypress water, and none suggest that chips are poisonous, but its some thing to keep in mind. |
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| Author: | EllKayBee [ Sep 18th, '06, 09:52 ] |
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David wrote: Yeah but did your fish all turn onto their backs?
tickle their underbellies - fortunately it was only a bit of dye, it was an old towel too, been in the shed for ages and didn't think it would cause any hassles at the time (just didn't think more like it) |
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| Author: | EllKayBee [ Sep 18th, '06, 09:54 ] |
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ah sorry - just hit me that your fish suffered |
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| Author: | David [ Sep 18th, '06, 10:05 ] | ||
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Thats cool, Yes the water got redder and the fish (silver perch) got stressed, I cant usally catch these guys without a net, but i had to find the last 2 on the bottom of the tank and rescue them by hand.
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| Author: | aquamad [ Sep 18th, '06, 12:11 ] |
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That could have been tannin... I would not use wood chip or bark due to tannin (mostly in the bark) and because it will swing your ph (down if I remember correctly) |
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| Author: | David [ Sep 18th, '06, 12:30 ] |
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ok, but its harmless right? (to people i mean) and it will wash out, just like it washes out of tea? |
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| Author: | aquamad [ Sep 18th, '06, 12:39 ] |
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to people I would say harmless, but not so sure about fish... |
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| Author: | steve [ Sep 18th, '06, 12:40 ] |
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Am's got a point, i don't suppose you meausured your PH when your water changed colour? Might just have been a severe downward pH swing that did the fish in |
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| Author: | David [ Sep 18th, '06, 12:53 ] |
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well they didnt die, thats the strange thing. Its as if theyt had been anethatised, as soon as I put them in clean water, they all recovered. Im washing the chips in clean water until the colour goes, but i woundered if its safe to eat tomartoes that had been grown in this "Tannin"? |
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| Author: | David [ Sep 18th, '06, 12:59 ] |
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would be interesting to see if the water colour changes if I add an alcali to the water. |
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