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| Author: | fishfodder [ Dec 8th, '08, 09:36 ] |
| Post subject: | Water Ager, What Brand? |
What brand of water ager should we use? Most of the ones I see have "For Aquarium Use Only" or have some warning about not to be used for edible fish. Are there some brands that are recommended for edible fish? |
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| Author: | RupertofOZ [ Dec 8th, '08, 09:37 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Water Ager, What Brand? |
I wouldn't use them at all... why do you need them fishfodder? |
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| Author: | fishfodder [ Dec 8th, '08, 09:42 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Water Ager, What Brand? |
I plan on using tank water, but don't have a tank at the moment so town water is my only option. On another subject I do have some concerns about what will find its way into our tank water. We live pretty close to Port Kembla steel works. Who knows what will be coming off our roof? I will get one of those water diverters (first 50 litres removed) and have my tank water tested. 
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| Author: | Dufflight [ Dec 8th, '08, 12:35 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Water Ager, What Brand? |
I use a half drum with an air bubbler to take out the chlorine. |
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| Author: | Outbackozzie [ Dec 8th, '08, 17:19 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Water Ager, What Brand? |
I've never used it, except for the initial fill of the first system. |
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| Author: | veggie boy [ Dec 8th, '08, 20:55 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Water Ager, What Brand? |
Chloramine is a fish killer and not as easilly removed as chlorine. |
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| Author: | fishfodder [ Dec 9th, '08, 04:51 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Water Ager, What Brand? |
Thats the problem we have in Wollongong lots of Chlorine and Chloramine I killed a few goldfish some time back. I can bubble off the chlorine fairly easily but the Chloramine not so. I was sure someone would have come across a brand of water ager that was suitable for edible fish. Perhaps not.
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| Author: | RupertofOZ [ Dec 9th, '08, 07:32 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Water Ager, What Brand? |
Stick some guttering around that pergola of yours fishfodder... collect the rainwater into a couple of blue barrels for later... 
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| Author: | badflash [ Dec 9th, '08, 08:16 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Water Ager, What Brand? |
I use Amquel+. It takes out the chloramine as well as ammonia, nitrites. Bubbling does nothing for chloramine. Also, be sure to add it to the water 10 minutes before adding fish. The chloramine reaction has a 2 minute half life. I discovered this the hard way when the town went from chlorine to chloramine. I lost half my stock. I now use a Kold-Sterile http://www.premiumaquatics.com/thestore ... ERILE.html This takes out the bad stuff without adding anything. My water has hydrocarbons (read fuel) and without it, but water is not good for inverts. |
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| Author: | fishfodder [ Dec 9th, '08, 08:35 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Water Ager, What Brand? |
Thanks badflash. I currently have no rain water and the transpiration rate is quite high. I have had to add about 100 litres of water every couple of weeks. Good advise Rup, my concern over the water ager means that I am putting the roof and guttering on this week. Cutting my hands to pieces with the lazerlite in the process, my wife says a sensible man would wear gloves 
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| Author: | RupertofOZ [ Dec 9th, '08, 08:43 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Water Ager, What Brand? |
Just had a look at that product Badflash.... strips everything... including nitrates .... Would be OK used to treat water before being used in the AP system though I suppose... http://www.novalek.com/kordon/amquel+/index.htm |
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| Author: | badflash [ Dec 10th, '08, 00:00 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Water Ager, What Brand? |
It doesn't really strip the nitrates. It sort of inerts them. Over time they come back unless you do water changes. Nitrites and ammonia are converted. |
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| Author: | RupertofOZ [ Dec 10th, '08, 00:17 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Water Ager, What Brand? |
Not what it claims... Quote: AmQuel+ is nontoxic and saves on the need for as many water changes as would otherwise be required AmQuel+ removes 33 ppm (= 33 mg/L) of all chlorines including those chlorines in chloramines from the water AmQuel+ removes/detoxifies all of the kinds of toxic nitrogen compounds in the water AmQuel+ removes/detoxifies all forms of ammonia/ammonium/nitrites/nitrates from the water, including ammonia in chloramines AmQuel+ because of its stability and reliability reduces the need for water quality tests for chlorine, ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate AmQuel+ removes/detoxifies toxic pheromones from the water AmQuel+ does not affect the water's pH (acidity/basicity) AmQuel+ does not interfere with the beneficial nitrifying bacteria or their food sources AmQuel+ does not interfere with the beneficial sludge-removing bacteria or their food sources Claims you don't have to do water changes... removes/detoxifies "all forms of ammonia/ammonium/nitrites/nitrates from the water, including ammonia in chloramines" ... And somehow, despite removing/detoxifying all phases of the nitrification process it doesn't... "interfere with the beneficial nitrifying bacteria or their food sources or interfere with the beneficial sludge-removing bacteria or their food sources" .... Neat trick.... wonder if it can turn lead into gold as well .... 
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| Author: | RupertofOZ [ Dec 10th, '08, 00:19 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Water Ager, What Brand? |
and ... Quote: is not affected by filtration or activated carbon filters just how do you get rid of it... and what does it actually do with all these compounds???... hide them in a corner of your tank....
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| Author: | Dave Donley [ Dec 10th, '08, 00:33 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Water Ager, What Brand? |
There was some info from a member who had some experience with water treatment that vitamin C is sometimes used to remove chlorine before water is dumped into streams. Haven't tried it but thought it had a feel-good vibe to it. Google calcium ascorbate powder, it's buffered with calcium carbonate so it won't raise the acidity. |
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