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| Author: | DanDMan [ Apr 16th, '08, 05:40 ] |
| Post subject: | Sedimentary Rock Grow Beds |
I was looking at "Rapid Rock". I think I would like to make some cheap growbeds out of artificially created sedimentary rock. The question I have is do any of you know where I can get calcite in bulk? 25-50 pound sacks.. Quote: Most people imagine that it takes millions of years to form sedimentary rock. That is certainly the impression we are given in our culture today. And because of that impression, many people dismiss the claims of the Bible, which describes Creation in six Earth-rotation days some 6,000 years ago. However, some Australian scientists have developed a revolutionary new chemical process that transforms loose sediment into rock within days.1,2 The invention does not use strange, synthetic materials, but mimics natural processes. Some may find it hard to believe, but it’s true. Contrary to the general impression, it does not take millions of years to produce sedimentary rock. All it takes are the right conditions. What is sedimentary rock? Sedimentary rock, such as sandstone, is composed of grains of material held together with cement. The grains may be fragments of other rock, or minerals such as quartz or calcite.3 The fragments may be minuscule, like mud, or larger like sand, pebbles or even boulders. The rock may be composed of particles of similar size (‘well sorted’) or a mixture of sizes (‘poorly sorted’). Technically the particles are called clasts and the rocks are clastic rocks. Except for fine-grained rocks like mudstone, clastic rocks are usually porous. The spaces or pores between the grains can store pore fluid such as water, which can move through the rock. Oil, gas and water are stored underground like this. In natural rocks, many minerals can cement the grains together. Common cements include calcite, quartz, or minerals of iron. Different cements produce rocks with different strengths and different colours. For example, iron minerals produce red rocks. Sometimes the sediment is well cemented, making a hard, uniform rock, prized for building stone, e.g. Hawkesbury Sandstone around Sydney. Sometimes the cement is uneven and the quality of the rock is variable—hard in places and crumbly in others. Occasionally the cement is confined to small pockets and forms concretions with unusual shapes. When a rock is poorly cemented, engineers find that building foundations subside and embankments collapse. An obvious way of improving the strength of the foundations would be to increase the amount of cement in the rock. This is how the new rapid-rock invention works. Chemical solutions The new invention is simple to use. All that is needed is to spray two solutions onto the porous sand, soil or rock. The water-based solutions seep into the material, replacing the existing pore fluid. Alternatively, the solutions can be injected into the material. Because the solutions flow easily, like water, the sediment is quickly penetrated. And being entirely non-toxic, the solutions do not pose a health or environmental hazard. Once inside the pores, the chemicals react to form calcite crystals on the surface of each grain of sediment. The calcite cements the grains together and gives the sediment rock-like strength. The speed of the reaction can be controlled from one to seven days to allow the solution to penetrate into the sediment as far as desired. Because the cement only covers the grain surface, the spaces between the grains remain open. Thus the porosity of the rock is only slightly reduced and the flow of groundwater is not obstructed. This means that the solutions can be applied a number of times to the same sediment and continue to penetrate the pore spaces, adding extra cement each time. The sediment could be converted into almost-solid rock with the pores mostly filled, but this would take many applications and a few months to achieve. Ordinary water will not soften calcite, so the cement bonds should remain strong indefinitely.2 Lots of applications The rapid-rock invention has many practical uses, including strengthening weak foundations, stabilizing embankments and strengthening tunnels. One of the first projects was to repair a historic tunnel in Western Australia that was dangerous and closed to the public. After only three applications, the tunnel was strengthened, and the method saved lots of money. ![]() Chemical solutions penetrate the pore spaces and react to form calcite crystals on grain surfaces. When cemented, the sediment is rock hard. The process mimics how sedimentary rock forms in nature. Repeated applications result in further build-up of calcite cement around grains. The Calcite In-situ Precipitation System (CIPS) mimics natural crystallization around particles, which improves stability. The London Underground has tested the method for stabilizing some of its embankments with the big advantage that the materials can be strengthened in situ. The process could also be used to preserve historic monuments. EDIT ** Taken from http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v2 ... d_rock.asp |
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| Author: | DanDMan [ Apr 16th, '08, 05:42 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sedimentary Rock Grow Beds |
BTW This is an Australian invention! |
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| Author: | Dave Donley [ Apr 16th, '08, 05:45 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sedimentary Rock Grow Beds |
Hey DDM, sounds interesting. Where's the original link? I had been wondering during my lagoon greenhouse days whether you could freeze gravel into a clumpy rock with pores, like a rocky sponge, maybe this process could do something like that. You could maybe do this with a lighter material - maybe make your own rock "rice cakes"? |
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| Author: | Sleepe [ Apr 16th, '08, 08:08 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sedimentary Rock Grow Beds |
Dan Remember hearing about a couple of scientists who developed a spray to make roads ie just level the ground spray it and bingo a road. I would be interested in the link as it sounds like the same stuff. Didn't hear any more about it so assumed it had just died the death. |
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| Author: | DanDMan [ Apr 16th, '08, 20:10 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sedimentary Rock Grow Beds |
I never found the original link only references to it. It seams that its Calcium Carbonate. Which is made by crushing high purity white calcite lime stone. They said it uses no toxic chemicals, but that normal water will not dissolve it. What would that be? I guess I need to find the patent number for it. Yes, you can stick a pile of rock and/or sand together to make a rock like thing. I could just form up a tank fill the for with sand and gravel and shoot this mix into it and it would make a solid rock like tank. |
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| Author: | Steve S [ Apr 16th, '08, 20:59 ] | ||
| Post subject: | Re: Sedimentary Rock Grow Beds | ||
DanDMan wrote: I never found the original link only references to it. It seams that its Calcium Carbonate. Which is made by crushing high purity white calcite lime stone. They said it uses no toxic chemicals, but that normal water will not dissolve it. What would that be? I guess I need to find the patent number for it. Yes, you can stick a pile of rock and/or sand together to make a rock like thing. I could just form up a tank fill the for with sand and gravel and shoot this mix into it and it would make a solid rock like tank. http://answersingenesis.org/creation/v24/i2/rapid_rock.asp
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| Author: | Dave Donley [ Apr 16th, '08, 21:30 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sedimentary Rock Grow Beds |
I was thinking along the lines of a solid gravel bed, to use as a partition in the tank, which also provides room for bacteria as well. Sort of an in-tank gravel bed and supporting wall for walkways. If its just calcium carbonate I have some ice melting stuff in the garage that is calcium carbonate, how would you disolve it - with acid or something? I saw your page on a creationist web site after Googling for the CIPS acronym. Edit - yep same as SS's find. BTW DDM, whenever you copy a page verbatim my copyright infringement meter goes woowoowoowoo! |
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| Author: | steve [ Apr 16th, '08, 23:46 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sedimentary Rock Grow Beds |
dont think they'll mind, DD. DDM is giving them a plug for free! |
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