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| Author: | Fred [ Jul 28th, '06, 03:11 ] | ||
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Hi! This is my first post here. My mini system has run already for 3 weeks without fish. Yesterday I bought 3 guppies.  I wish them good luck with me. 
My system is indoor. Many pumps, hihi...  nevermind. I hope to get fun with this.
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| Author: | Aquaddict [ Jul 28th, '06, 03:29 ] |
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Hi. Welcome Fred. This is neat. you can lose two pumps easily, they're jusy extra ad not needed in the function you've given them. Distribute the water from pump one evenly over your bed it should flow into the peat as you want it to. Why all that peat. Aqua will naturally drift down in pH. So will peat. Unless you have a cunnig plan or end goal requiring all this filtering ie: zero waste. Zero waste is as simple as having enough filter yes. |
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| Author: | Fred [ Jul 28th, '06, 03:42 ] |
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Hello, Right, I wonder if effectively I need all this peat, so I've this in project. There is peat in the other container and the ph goes down easily enough. I need a way to down the ph, it is 7.5-8 from the supply. I've noticed it going up in my previous system, but it was hydroponic only... The three containers are at the same level, in real, so I need all the pumps. 
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| Author: | Aquaddict [ Jul 28th, '06, 04:58 ] |
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Nice. Have you considered using a passive return as they are on the same level. I used passive return successfully with Deep Water Culture Aquaponics. It was a wee bit slow, however, that was my pumps fault at the time not the setup. I can give detail if you're not familiar with the concept. It may be possible to reduce it all down to one pump. You can tell me to bog off you like it how it is 
If the peat is working for you all good! My source water is 7.0. |
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| Author: | monya [ Jul 28th, '06, 05:44 ] |
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G'day Fred, or first member from Geneva I think!! Photos please!!
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| Author: | Fred [ Jul 28th, '06, 06:04 ] |
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Aquadict: Next system I will make it with the minimum of pumps. I'm thinking about the next system too
Monya: Pics once I have a camera!
Nitrite is very high. I hope its oky until tommorow for the fish because Î don't have water without chlorine yet. |
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| Author: | aquamad [ Jul 28th, '06, 06:12 ] |
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Quote: I'm thinking about the next system too
A trueaquaponicist... not finished with the current system and already planning the next
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| Author: | nick [ Jul 28th, '06, 08:58 ] |
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one idea would be to take the buffer tank out of the loop and use it with your peat to lower the water before you put it into the system. this way you are aging and lowering the pH of your water before adding it to the system. This could get rid of two more pumps or keep one and use it to pump from the buffer tank into the system. |
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| Author: | earthbound [ Jul 28th, '06, 09:17 ] |
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You've obviously gone to a lot of effort in working this out and setting it up, nice one Fred... And welcome to the group. |
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| Author: | steve [ Jul 28th, '06, 11:33 ] |
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Welcome fred. IMO PH of 7.5 is great. Unfortunatly we cant keep the ph's at the ideal 6.5 for hydro in auqa systems. You will find that as the system ages and more bacteria "set up shop" your ph will drift downwards naturally, and the aim will be to raise it again. Good KH buffering does this automatically, and will maintain your ph at about 7.5 be careful with the peat, as once your system has found its sweet spot you may find that it really drags the PH down. Besides that ph range you stated for your tap water is the ideal ph for breeding the beneficial Bac. See the useful info section. Have fun here
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| Author: | Fred [ Jul 28th, '06, 16:18 ] |
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nick wrote: one idea would be to take the buffer tank out of the loop and use it with your peat to lower the water before you put it into the system. this way you are aging and lowering the pH of your water before adding it to the system.
Yes, it is exactly what I do, as the water circulates periodically, not continuously. I wait at least one day between adding fresh water and transferring the buffer tank to the aquarium. |
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| Author: | Fred [ Jul 28th, '06, 16:21 ] |
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steve wrote: IMO PH of 7.5 is great. Unfortunatly we cant keep the ph's at the ideal 6.5 for hydro in auqa systems.
I didn't knew that. Cool, something not to bother.  Thanks all for your welcome. I hope to learn a lot here.
I've seen already some of your pictures, until I visit them all.
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| Author: | steve [ Jul 28th, '06, 16:24 ] |
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Fred, thats my opinion, other may have a different view, but i definatly would not go lower than 7.0. See the plants prbably prefer it lower, but bacterial efficiency is greatest at about 7.5. so if you have a system running at max density levels i'd stick with 7.5, if not then you could probably run it at 7.0 but like i said i like to cycle my systems at about 7.5 and 25C to get the quickest possible "cycling". change the parameters after that if you like. |
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| Author: | Fred [ Jul 31st, '06, 18:24 ] |
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Guess what? I think there is a camera waiting for me at the post! I'll finally dare to show somehing
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| Author: | aquamad [ Jul 31st, '06, 18:30 ] |
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woo hoo
Looking forward to them pics!!!!
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