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Author:  steve [ Mar 14th, '07, 20:45 ]
Post subject:  Cloramine / ammonia theory-needs testing
G'day all.

Just had a thought ( it happens sometimes)

With melbourne on chloramine now i've been thinking about things.

When we use "tap water conditioner" on grid water with chloramine we break the chlorine-ammona bond (chloramine) and neutralize the chlorine.

BUT we are left with free ammonia in the water...................

So, i get to thinking, can the ammonia be off gassed line straight chlorine used to be?

I don't have time time, but would like someone to test this theory for me.

If you know that you are on chloramine this is what i would like;

get 20lts or so of tap water
use the conditioner at the rec. dosage for chloramine
test the water to veryfy that you have ammonia present
put an air stone in the water for say 12 hours
measure the ammonia again.

Steve
Author:  EllKayBee [ Mar 15th, '07, 07:46 ]
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Suckered into it again..............

bucket with 10l of tap water
added conditioner
tested ammonia.....0.5
powerful 2.6l/h air pump inserted and switched on
Start time now .... time on posting
Author:  EllKayBee [ Mar 15th, '07, 18:45 ]
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Just remembered this.......

Air pump batteries went flat so haven't had air for all the time, changed and will do another reading in the morning, not much change in reading - might be closer to 0.25
Author:  TimC [ Mar 15th, '07, 19:21 ]
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VB... you may want to read Steves post again.... I think we had concluded that the chloramine cannot be easily gassed off.
Author:  EllKayBee [ Mar 15th, '07, 19:28 ]
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hehehe - Steve's gonna love that one, bit shitty he didn't pick up on vb's error 1st tho :glasses7:

...and no moderator intervention (deleting/modifying posts)
Author:  veggie boy [ Mar 15th, '07, 19:30 ]
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What error ?
Author:  veggie boy [ Mar 15th, '07, 19:30 ]
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...and no moderator intervention (deleting/modifying posts)


What do you mean :lol:
Author:  EllKayBee [ Mar 15th, '07, 19:33 ]
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You'll get one of those coloured dots above your name if you keep doing that :lol:
Author:  EllKayBee [ Mar 16th, '07, 06:00 ]
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Fantastic news Steve, I now have a bucket of ammonia to feed to my duckweed :lol:

test results: ammonia not quite 0.5
Author:  steve [ Mar 16th, '07, 06:05 ]
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now IM confused.

Did i earlier state that ammoia could not be gassed off and now asked for some one to try it My brian must be on AP meltdown.

VB? what error?


LOL i'm confused
Author:  Jaymie [ Mar 16th, '07, 06:07 ]
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VB is covering his tracks, hiding his human frailties :wink:
Author:  steve [ Mar 16th, '07, 06:08 ]
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hmmmm, abuse of moderator powers, huh?
Author:  Jaymie [ Mar 16th, '07, 06:12 ]
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nah, any one could have deleted their own mistakes like that :wink:
Author:  steve [ Mar 16th, '07, 06:13 ]
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i don't think they can if its been replyed to ;)
Author:  EllKayBee [ Mar 16th, '07, 06:14 ]
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Your theory needed to be proven (ammonia gas off) - for chrissake don't give vb any more ammunition to rub your nose in it :lol:
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