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TCLynx
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Posted: May 27th, '10, 02:32 |
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I believe there is a fishless cycling thread in either basic info or useful info.
As for if you buy ammonia, I don't know how much to tell you to put in.
I cycled up my big system just fine using about 500 ml of aged urine (humonia) every 2-4 days or whenever the ammonia and nitrite levels dropped low enough. I recommend aged urine since leaving it sealed up in a bottle lets the urea convert to ammonia so making overdosing less likely (when you dose with urea, it will take days for the ammonia to show up and people tend to get impatient thinking they didn't add enough and then before they realize it the ammonia levels are off the chart and still rising which tends to actually slow cycling down.) Also, sealing the urine in a bottle for a few weeks also allows the pH to rise along with the converting ammonia which tends to kill off things like e. coli which will show up in the urine of even a healthy person.
Anyway, it doesn't really take very much. You essentially want to dose up to between 1 and 2 ppm of ammonia and then wait till the level drops and repeat. Watch the nitrite levels too though since once they start to spike you will want to wait till both the ammonia and nitrite levels drop below 1 ppm before dosing again. Once you can reach a point where you can dose to 1 ppm ammonia and have both the ammonia and nitrite levels drop to 0 within 24 hours, you are fishlessly cycled. How much does it take to reach 1 or 2 ppm, well for that I usually guess low and then increase the dose till I get it right. It isn't rocket science and there are studies out there that say dosing to 5 ppm ammonia will cycle quicker but remember that too much ammonia can inhibit the next step which is usually harder to get past and that is the nitrite spike.
As to the air pump running with the water pump, just make sure there is a check valve so as not to pump water through your air pump if something goes wrong.
good Luck there
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